DPS/ES leech numbers for crit howa after 3.0 (POB)
Why not wear an ES shield instead of dual wielding HOWA then? 500es shield would put you back to at least 8.5k if not more, and with 1000 int HOWA is still like 900edps so I'm pretty sure it will still work.
Why not wear an ES shield instead of dual wielding HOWA then? 500es shield would put you back to at least 8.5k if not more, and with 1000 int HOWA is still like 900edps so I'm pretty sure it will still work.
Wouldn't be worth it the DPS would be too dogshit at that point for such little defense.
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Time to try other ways to survive on this skill. Now u have 1 shield slot with more ES instead of having to go dual wield.
Maybe Trickster with zealoths oath is a good alternative, more ES than ever, evasion helps with reflect, high ES pool helps with reflect too. Forget about leech on ES.
Edit: Also i would not go crit, and take elemental overload for 3.0 HoWA
Also use Shapers touch for more %Evasion, and maybe grace aura, u will have lots of evasion.
You have never played HOWA have you?
The build already runs Overload now and can go crit already... And right now even with 10-12K ES and instant leech you damn near obliterate yourself now to reflect... No leech and reflect means this build will die on EVERY SINGLE REFLECT RARE! And theres not a damn thing that will change that. And you will have 8K ES at best in GG gear and running a shield instead of DW... ZO isn't gonna help this either. The ONLY thing that might help is the rework coming to reflect but even still with the ES nerf and nerf to the claws i highly doubt they will be worth messing with in a pure CI version. I could however see them used on Hybrid versions of the build. but otherwise these claws are going Niche instead of Meta plain and simple.
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Why not wear an ES shield instead of dual wielding HOWA then? 500es shield would put you back to at least 8.5k if not more, and with 1000 int HOWA is still like 900edps so I'm pretty sure it will still work.
Wouldn't be worth it the DPS would be too dogshit at that point for such little defense.
Because of the change from the damage being Global to changing to each weapon independently scaling means you can drop one claw and not lose half your damage because the lightning damage isnt stacking to 2-12 anymore. Thus why they were buffed to 1-10 to compensate. But thats the only good thing about the change at least you are no longer forced to go DW. You can actually build around the claws 1H+Shield now. Not that that is gonna help make them anything close to what they are now. They have still took a huge hit from ES nerf and the Global nerf to them.
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Última edição por Demonoz#1375 em 31 de mai. de 2017 13:16:19
Why not wear an ES shield instead of dual wielding HOWA then? 500es shield would put you back to at least 8.5k if not more, and with 1000 int HOWA is still like 900edps so I'm pretty sure it will still work.
Wouldn't be worth it the DPS would be too dogshit at that point for such little defense.
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Why not wear an ES shield instead of dual wielding HOWA then? 500es shield would put you back to at least 8.5k if not more, and with 1000 int HOWA is still like 900edps so I'm pretty sure it will still work.
Wouldn't be worth it the DPS would be too dogshit at that point for such little defense.
Time to try other ways to survive on this skill. Now u have 1 shield slot with more ES instead of having to go dual wield.
Maybe Trickster with zealoths oath is a good alternative, more ES than ever, evasion helps with reflect, high ES pool helps with reflect too. Forget about leech on ES.
Edit: Also i would not go crit, and take elemental overload for 3.0 HoWA
Also use Shapers touch for more %Evasion, and maybe grace aura, u will have lots of evasion.
You have never played HOWA have you?
The build already runs Overload now and can go crit already... And right now even with 10-12K ES and instant leech you damn near obliterate yourself now to reflect... No leech and reflect means this build will die on EVERY SINGLE REFLECT RARE! And theres not a damn thing that will change that. And you will have 8K ES at best in GG gear and running a shield instead of DW... ZO isn't gonna help this either. The ONLY thing that might help is the rework coming to reflect but even still with the ES nerf and nerf to the claws i highly doubt they will be worth messing with in a pure CI version. I could however see them used on Hybrid versions of the build. but otherwise these claws are going Niche instead of Meta plain and simple.
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I_NO escreveu:
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Why not wear an ES shield instead of dual wielding HOWA then? 500es shield would put you back to at least 8.5k if not more, and with 1000 int HOWA is still like 900edps so I'm pretty sure it will still work.
Wouldn't be worth it the DPS would be too dogshit at that point for such little defense.
Because of the change from the damage being Global to changing to each weapon independently scaling means you can drop one claw and not lose half your damage because the lightning damage isnt stacking to 2-12 anymore. Thus why they were buffed to 1-10 to compensate. But thats the only good thing about the change at least you are no longer forced to go DW. You can actually build around the claws 1H+Shield now. Not that that is gonna help make them anything close to what they are now. They have still took a huge hit from ES nerf and the Global nerf to them.
Yeah 1-10 compared to 2-12 is a 27% ish nerf. Considering the weapons were trivializing the game, I don't think they become dogshit now as mentioned by I_NO. Reflect will definitely be an issue, but then again, reflect is an issue for all pure builds (pure phys, pure ele), which before was only balanced by having the ES buffer. Hopefully there are some changes to reflect in 3.0 because reflect will become a much bigger issue for so many more builds now. I mean I used to 1 shot myself to any random reflect rare playing a Slayer that has 50% reduced phys reflect!
They could just make fucking life leech and reflect apply the same way(and amounts subtracting from each other). By applying over time.
Really simply like this:
All life leech(leech over time) and all reflected damage adds up into the same one pool. Before passives the pool will drain at 20% max life/es per sec. No more "life leech rate"-which is absolutely horrible designed stat it could just be plainly removed it cause only problems and makes shit clunky... (max rate still exists).
So anyway...
All leech + reflect stack into the same pool that drains at 20% max life/hp sec. If you leeched more than you have reflected on yourself - well then the extra leech will be consumed at a rate of 20% max life/es per second until it is gone. For leech that can be improved by passives. If you have reflected more damage to yourself than you have leeched, then the pool of reflected damage is drained at a rate of damaging you for 20% max life/es per sec.
If you leeched 105 life and reflected 120 life, then 105 - 120 = - 15, the poolvalue will now be "-15" which will be applied as damage to you until finishing draining at a rate of 20% max life/es per sec.
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Última edição por Crackmonster#7709 em 31 de mai. de 2017 13:50:00
Time to try other ways to survive on this skill. Now u have 1 shield slot with more ES instead of having to go dual wield.
Maybe Trickster with zealoths oath is a good alternative, more ES than ever, evasion helps with reflect, high ES pool helps with reflect too. Forget about leech on ES.
Edit: Also i would not go crit, and take elemental overload for 3.0 HoWA
Also use Shapers touch for more %Evasion, and maybe grace aura, u will have lots of evasion.
You have never played HOWA have you?
The build already runs Overload now and can go crit already... And right now even with 10-12K ES and instant leech you damn near obliterate yourself now to reflect... No leech and reflect means this build will die on EVERY SINGLE REFLECT RARE! And theres not a damn thing that will change that. And you will have 8K ES at best in GG gear and running a shield instead of DW... ZO isn't gonna help this either. The ONLY thing that might help is the rework coming to reflect but even still with the ES nerf and nerf to the claws i highly doubt they will be worth messing with in a pure CI version. I could however see them used on Hybrid versions of the build. but otherwise these claws are going Niche instead of Meta plain and simple.
Im seeing your post as just plain angry stupid. Lol on so much things.
So lets talk about reflect:
1- Taking elemental overload instead going crit, helps with not dying to 1 shot reflect
2- going lots evasion helps with not dying to multiple reflect shots
3- having 1 more ES shield and 250 ES from trickster helps a lot on EHP to sustain damage u take
4- dps is going lower on 3.0 hoWA builds anyway, so less damage taken on reflect either
5- U and i know nothing about the changes on reflect on 3.0, so why u are so mad and pissed about that?
6-U really know nothing about HoWA if u think would be good to go hybrid over CI version.
7- Im not trying to come with anything new to the build, just my thoughts on what kind of build would use better the free shield that is comming with howa nerf*(i dont think is too much of a nerf), and vaal pact being removed from the build.
