Favorite/most memorable villain?
Wow , Charan you seem to be implying that we didn't already know this stuff about parody. I mean, 'This exile is a world, illusion.'
Oh what's this I just found in a deserted church. It's a Golden Hand jerb. The thing about parody though, is that you can stay in that air for so long that you actually begin to deprive yourself of the substance which earned the right to be parodied in teh fist place. Evangelion is on of those things. I honestly think it is a series that still goes over people's heads. Like I said. I think Asuka was the main character and Gainax put Shinji, the antagonist front in center just because they knew that mostly boys were going to be watching the show. Even Rei... was like this massive social commentary on how males look at women. And it all went over most of our heads. But yeah I can still laugh at it. I just don't want ot allow the parodies to eclipse the source material. It shouldn't be taboo to take Evangelion seriously sometimes. When I was a kid I completely didn't understand Gendo. And now... he's like the most relatable character in the show to me. |
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" You pompous ass. I'm calling you out this time. I never insinuated that my view was the correct one! I only offered it up as my view. What is this, politics? Do I have to take a poll and then draw an accurate graph that represents a cross section of 100,000 people's views on evangelion down to the margin of error? I like ice cream. That doesn't mean that you have to like it too. I never fucking forced my views on you and yet you couldn't resist the temptation to get on your high horse and try to pretend like I did. Get this. I don't give a shit what you think about Gendo. You were making jokes about villains and so I made jokes about yours. I honestly couldn't care less about what anyone else thinks about subject matter. In fact I prefer it that most people don't share my view about evangelion! The only reason I shared my view on Gendo, how I didn't understand him at first and how he is not the series most relatable character is to illustrate how the show continues to live to this day. Not a lot of shows have that. But finally, even though I don't demand that others share my particular view on eva. I LOATHE when people just give up and say the things' subjective. It's the same thing as practicing atheism --> "Something made us and sustains us... I can't prove what it is, so I guess it's nothing." Or when I ask, "Gee I have these stats which game engine should I use?" And the answer is, "They're all tools with pros and cons I can't give you a recommendation" Fact is people who just shrug and say it's subjectives are just quitters. If science worked that way we'd still be in caves. You have to have a THEORY to start things out with, in anything. And your theory is just the theory of giving up. Unbelievable. Shocking, really. |
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Most memorable - trolls in feedback forums, after they've been exiled from general.
About movies and other media, strangely I have none, I thought for good few minutes, and just no. Maybe Chicken George from fourteen? Spreading salt since 2006
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Shakespeare villain is Iago (though he has some heavy competition from many sources most notably Lady M and Richard III).
Stephen King imo is Stark from a not very famous book of his (although the King fans will know it). I actually played Iago once. He is loads of fun. Mine was a very active Iago. My fave line: Not poppy, nor mandragora nor all the dizzy syrups of the world; shall ever medicine thee to that sweet sleep which though owest yesterday. Really think about that line. Think about if it was you someone was speaking of. Talk about sleeping with a gun under the pillow. Doing it from memory so pardon me if it is not quite right. This was in my youth. Censored. Última edição por kolyaboo em 9 de mar de 2019 20:25:51
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" Yes. Edit: Manually fixed some nonsense with the quote function. I make dumb builds, therefore I am. Última edição por FCK42 em 9 de mar de 2019 21:22:53
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I didn't want to mention him since I never actually read the the original sherlock holmes (which is a mistake I should correct some time). Of the whole lot of different versions I've seen, Moriarty either came off as a generic boring villain who does villain things, but "smart" (which isn't all that memorable) or is more of an annoyance than actual villain trying to tick off and outsmart Sherlock whenever possible, without causing too much harm physically (the psychological effects on Sherlock are a different matter).
Mostly I just didn'really think of him and posted that answer as a joke since he hadn't been mentioned yet, recent iterations are a really mixed bag and he's a low hanging fruit for a thread like this. I make dumb builds, therefore I am.
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Do you get notifications with "Charan"?
I think we're well past being amused at the thoughtful hands memery, but noted. I doubt I'll ever watch eva, but thank for the peek into a fervent and clearly influential work of art and its reach. " Definitely, which is why I picked Annie first. But I like visceral-reaction creating villainy a lot. Pennywise is a villain, true, but the real problem in that town is the denial, forgetting, and not-seeing both of Pennywise, and the real human abuse and repeated trauma occurring. Pennywise feeds on the fears of children, but they are grown in a sick vineyard. That the gang find each other and a way though their traumas - (maybe not the orgy scene but I'm not gonna crucify King for that) - is powerful stuff. But we are talking about villains, so - " I will keep that in mind. Puttering through my (main) current read (you know it!) if slowly. Still going with Richard 3rd, over Iago, because I have a thing for hunchbacks. Shakespeare wasn't a villain for giving ol' Richard a makeover, I think that's only really bad when it's a bad person whitewashed into being good after the fact. No thought or backup into saying that, just saying it for the hell of it but it feels right. Iago was Othello's lover, you know. No wonder he got so burned up. " Really? " Not simply to watch you in all your fiery glory, Charan. Because we all start somewhere and none of us should ever stop learning. " Moriarty is an interesting character. He really had to happen, as Sherlock (and no doubt Conan Doyle) would have died of boredom without him. Not sure it's Yin/Yang so much as worthy adversary - in the detective novel you can't have the detective solving things easily, and here we have a genius detective with no intellectual weaknesses in Holmes. Wiser writers make their detectives less obvious about how smart they are. Even Poirot was Belgian. Sherlock would approve of your comment about people being what was it thinking we are good when we're complicated. He calls himself a high functioning sociopath in the Cumberbatch/ Freeman tv show (which I couldn't endure towards the end, what a nosedive, but the first eps are great) but that's wrong. good piece on how Sherlock operates On Moriarty: " They'll never catch us alive! " Última edição por erdelyii em 9 de mar de 2019 23:19:17
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But it does usually ("Charan")? I always just assumed it did.
They will fix it eventually, yes. " Yes, exactly why it's wrong and calling himself "high functioning" is the little flashing arrow to say he's joking. Moffat carried his Dr Who energy over to Sherlock. Same great start, then weird tangled plotlines and fiesty yet weak female characters. Moffat doesn't write women well at all. I dropped off watching Dr Who during that time, am a big old school fan. so the fast-paced short format of the new series never really clicked with me but Moffat definitely sunk that ship, too. " Hahahaha. " Maybe it's that I see Yin/Yang differently, with the characteristics in mind so the villain/hero duality doesn't work for it. Nemesis? " So, nemesis? " I meant really they are your favourite kind? Why is that? " Yes. " Superman? Not something I've ever had interest in aside from being exposed to it. Most Lex / Superman I've seen in years is in the [brilliant that felt like 5 minutes passed] Lego Movies. Probably not quite in-depth enough. " Yes, because the good deeds still stand wheras the bad ones being whitewashed offend my sense of justice more. In the wash, probably a bee's dick difference, though. |
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" Also, nice Harlan Ellison nod before. I missed this - One villanous act can be enough, for sure. Not maybe as memorable as a career of villainy such as we are talking about in this thread, but yes. Dante likely put them down there because of his political experiences. Just a guess. |
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Victor Frankenstein? Put the loco in In loco parentis, and took the parent out.
Off the cuff quip because I was just peeking. More to come after sleep and such, you betcha. |
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