Deadeye L.A. + barrage -> what am I doing wrong? (old player comeback)

Hi guys,

I started to play when there was only 3 acts, and stopped when Dominus was the big boss (because my computer at the time couldn't run PoE without crashing in Dominus fight!). So, as you can imagine, I was pretty much completly lost when I played again 2 month ago (Btw, thanks GGG for the mac os version, it runs smooth, you guys ROCK!!!).

Anyway, I had a LA deadeye, I still have it. I lurked on the forum, grabbed some ideas around to update my build.

But, I am not totally satisfied and I've reached the point where I don't know what to do anymore. :/

My problems are simple :
- I do not have enough DPS against bosses
- I'm tired of getting oneshoted by Atziri or high tier bosses.
- I'm not confortable in high tier maps (lvl 12+)

I want to keep L.A. if possible (I refuse to play ice shot, I hate the graphical effect of iceshot lol) but I could also play a physical build / chaos build, why not.
I can change barrage for something else, I just want to be efficient against bosses.

Here is my actual stuff :



And some stuff I had before, and still own :



Here is my passive tree :





What should I do ?
Change flasks, jewels, nodes, support gems ?
Reroll ? Stop playing video games and read ?


Thank you for reading me! ;)

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2972080/page/20#p23978308

I'd say take a look at that

LA works fine in it, but if not consider going Tornado shot so as not to waste the conversion


take a look at skill gems, mechanic, conversion, scaling of the built at the above mentioned thread...

then min-max or modify yourself = ) whisper me in game: MrNey

i'm happy to theoricraft

Dude....it is called power creep.

You missed 14 leagues content. No on really play LA anymore and Barrage is nerfed (keep your +2 helmet BTW if you have one)

People also use Awakened Support Gem instead of lv 21 gem, as well as for elemental build, using reworked gem Inspiration Support

Also , people drop Barrage , and use the skill they like plus Barrage Support

Bow has new suffix that +1/+2 arrows too, plus influenced item which there is a Shaper mod in quiver to add one more arrow to fire

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neohongkong escreveu:

Dude....it is called power creep.

You missed 14 leagues content. No on really play LA anymore and Barrage is nerfed (keep your +2 helmet BTW if you have one)

People also use Awakened Support Gem instead of lv 21 gem, as well as for elemental build, using reworked gem Inspiration Support

Also , people drop Barrage , and use the skill they like plus Barrage Support

Bow has new suffix that +1/+2 arrows too, plus influenced item which there is a Shaper mod in quiver to add one more arrow to fire

I think Barrage is still relevant and still the strongest single target bow skill...

yea skill you like + barrage support works well or not bad I suppose
but probably wouldn't beat counter part of Barrage+5 support even without +1 helm enchant

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Neyeah escreveu:

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neohongkong escreveu:

Dude....it is called power creep.

You missed 14 leagues content. No on really play LA anymore and Barrage is nerfed (keep your +2 helmet BTW if you have one)

People also use Awakened Support Gem instead of lv 21 gem, as well as for elemental build, using reworked gem Inspiration Support

Also , people drop Barrage , and use the skill they like plus Barrage Support

Bow has new suffix that +1/+2 arrows too, plus influenced item which there is a Shaper mod in quiver to add one more arrow to fire

I think Barrage is still relevant and still the strongest single target bow skill...

yea skill you like + barrage support works well or not bad I suppose
but probably wouldn't beat counter part of Barrage+5 support even without +1 helm enchant

Those insane burst damage bow build are not using Barrage but Barrage Support.

edit: also, for some Barrage variant that need a vaaled Voidfetcher or dex stacking, it is not the vanilla Barrage build anymore. Even Abyss jewel stacking is a 3.1 thing, not the 3 acts thing.

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neohongkong escreveu:

Those insane burst damage bow build are not using Barrage but Barrage Support.

Although this might be irrelevant with OP's topic, but I have to point out that this is very wrong. I can assure you that most mirrorred set up in std are still using barrage, and also just check those helms for bow builds in mirror shop, they are still using barrage +2 enchant. When adding extra arrow, barrage support will have an increased attack time while barrage will not, making barrage much better at high end.

For a typical phys conversion bow build (which is the mechanic that OP using), if you can convert 100% (or almost 100%) of your damage with your gear/tree, then barrage is just the better choice for single target damage. The main reason that people use barrage support is that it can give your single target skill some decent aoe when linking with ice shot/galvanic arrow/etc.

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Neyeah escreveu:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2972080/page/20#p23978308

I'd say take a look at that

LA works fine in it, but if not consider going Tornado shot so as not to waste the conversion


take a look at skill gems, mechanic, conversion, scaling of the built at the above mentioned thread...

then min-max or modify yourself = ) whisper me in game: MrNey

i'm happy to theoricraft

This is one of the guides I used to update my build. I guess I didn't read it enough lol!

I'll read it again, and I'll message you ingame, thank you. ;)

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neohongkong escreveu:

Dude....it is called power creep.

You missed 14 leagues content. No on really play LA anymore and Barrage is nerfed (keep your +2 helmet BTW if you have one)

People also use Awakened Support Gem instead of lv 21 gem, as well as for elemental build, using reworked gem Inspiration Support

Also , people drop Barrage , and use the skill they like plus Barrage Support

Bow has new suffix that +1/+2 arrows too, plus influenced item which there is a Shaper mod in quiver to add one more arrow to fire

I guess you didn't really looked at the items I linked, you could have seen that I use awakened support gems. But that's okay. ;)

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lazyrabbit711 escreveu:

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neohongkong escreveu:

Those insane burst damage bow build are not using Barrage but Barrage Support.

Although this might be irrelevant with OP's topic, but I have to point out that this is very wrong. I can assure you that most mirrorred set up in std are still using barrage, and also just check those helms for bow builds in mirror shop, they are still using barrage +2 enchant. When adding extra arrow, barrage support will have an increased attack time while barrage will not, making barrage much better at high end.

For a typical phys conversion bow build (which is the mechanic that OP using), if you can convert 100% (or almost 100%) of your damage with your gear/tree, then barrage is just the better choice for single target damage. The main reason that people use barrage support is that it can give your single target skill some decent aoe when linking with ice shot/galvanic arrow/etc.

Quite a lot of top end Raider use Chainbreaker AOF Fire Elemental Hit with Barrage Support

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJKYZ5sgVo

Yes other class still use Barrage but for real dps and yt video there is not much other that use Barrage as single target to have on par dps

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neohongkong escreveu:

Quite a lot of top end Raider use Chainbreaker AOF Fire Elemental Hit with Barrage Support

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJKYZ5sgVo

Yes other class still use Barrage but for real dps and yt video there is not much other that use Barrage as single target to have on par dps

If you call this insane burst damage then LOL. Not to say 75M dps is not high at all, but even the 75M is totally inflated. With 50M+ dps, Sirus would be melt down instantly and never be able to cast a single skill. Just check the gif in my thread, I was using a 1ex Chin Sol with only like 35M dps at that time (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2972080).

Also, the mechanic of ele hit is just completely different from a typical bow attacker based off weapon damage. Don't know why you bring it up since it's just irrelevant with OP's question here. On OP's set up, it's just a fact that barrage is better than barrage support as for pure dps.

BTW top dps on poe ninja are mostly just meme builds, they are just POB/ninja warrior. Ele hit builds are among the tops cuz the default set up happens to favor the build. Easy to figure that out when you see a 75M build performs worse than a 35M build on Sirus.

The answer really is powercreep. Some leagues ago GGG decided it wasn't fun if people were able to oneshot/instaphase bosses, so they buffed those. They didn't tackle the real problem ofc, which is absurd scaling via items for some builds, so people are still able to oneshot/instaphase bosses (or at least kill them fast enough to ignore their mechanics), but people on the lower end of gear will struggle much more to kill them.
It's a bullshit fix for their messed up balance, but I guess you can't take people's 50million+ dps options away.

Accept that you will have to play very specific skills or trade for strong items in order to get good progress. Because right now, absurd scaling is expected to play into the endgame.