Was Malachai evil?

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xSyK0TiC escreveu:

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Fluffy_Puppies escreveu:

He won't appear as an ally. If you don't want spoilers don't ask how I know, but it is 100% certain he won't be an ally.

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What the fuck happen to piety LOL

There is an old movie called Children of the Corn, the Malachai kid in that was most definitely evil, so I say yes he was! :P

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To further the topic of Malachai:
Evil requires intent, and Malachai's intent was not evil. He did what he thought was for the better. His methods may be perceived as evil, but if your test subjects are of no value to you or those who assigned them to you, it doesn't make you evil, it makes you misinformed.
For example, throughout history (of the real world), the very first thing people try to accomplish when they want a certain group of people gone, and it's to dehumanize them. The Jews were vermin to the Nazi's, and if a person truly believes that to be true, how can you say that person is evil when at the same time you don't consider another who kills a cockroach evil.

Now that we understand that other animals are not just automatons made by a deity, we no longer do things such as blinding bats by burning their eyes and wonder why they still continue to dodge things (only to burn their ears as well to find out they have sonar).
If a person did that bat experiment today, he would no doubt (hopefully at least) be considered evil. But who can blame him for doing it when he didn't think bats could even feel pain or have thoughts.

How is he not evil, that dude being evil was obvious the moment we first saw the first bit of lore about him.


honestly i think he would insulted by the mere idea that people are debating on whether or not he is evil.

I'm not convinced Malachai was serious when he said he would end thaumaturgy. I think he only said it to convince Voll so he wouldn't be killed. I'm guessing he was going to use the machine or whatever to do something completely different. Things just didn't quite go as planned.

Well that's my take.

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Saltychipmunk escreveu:

How is he not evil, that dude being evil was obvious the moment we first saw the first bit of lore about him.


honestly i think he would insulted by the mere idea that people are debating on whether or not he is evil.

I wonder... so many think themselves good.
In-fact, some feel they are so undoubtedly righteous that they feel the need to silence questioning.
Can the north-korean government be considered evil? definitely.
Do they consider themselves evil? I highly doubt it.

Though In case of malachai he might be a bit more realistic, or able to see the world in a different spectrum. If anything he's ambitious and attempts to reach his objectives by any means necessary. (supposing from the little there was to read about him)
by the eyes of an outsider he's definitely evil though (this considering he did cause the cataclysm on purpose, though his implied persuasion methods do not help).

I think piety got the short end of the corruption stick there.

The dude experimented on people. his own people. IMO you enter the realm of evil when you cause suffering to others to further your own ambitions.

He has the only original statue of himself that I can think of in the game. Either he made it for himself or his adoring public made it for him.

I vote not evil. Who cares about a bunch of exiles?