Show min/max stats on items suggestion.

I've noticed that by pressing "alt" we can reveal the item level straight away and I was wondering if GGG is planning on expanding on that feature?

I think showing an items min/max stats it can roll would greatly improve trading, as even a complete noob will be able to say: "this item looks good, the 5 stats it has are top tier". I get that you can memorize all this and be constantly on the wiki, poe trade and whatnot, but some people just won't bother. Not only trading would benefit, we'd also get a lot less "PC PLEASE" spam in chat, not to mention it'd make learning the game a lot easier.


I play a lot of other games, might be considered a PoE noob(even though I played it when it was available to play)only have 3 characters in PoE, all below lvl 80, but when I have to spend two hours on research, determining if the two stashes of rare items I consider good are actually worth a damn it becomes irritating.

Just to clarify, I'd love to see something like:

Generic rare ring

- generic prefix 25

- generic affix +12%

- generic affix +40

- generic affix +94

- generic affix +57%

press "control" and you get:

Generic rare ring

- generic prefix 25(20-30)

- generic affix +12%(6-15)

- generic affix +40(12-40)

- generic affix +94(1-100)

- generic affix +57%(1-150)

EDIT: the numbers shown would be min/max available for the item tier, not overall max/min stats.

IIRC there's something like that in D3,only in D3 it's pretty pointless while in PoE it would make a huge difference.

So, first of all, is it technically possible and if yes is there a chance for this making into the game at some point?

I think there would be issues when there are more than one affix at work on a mod. The best items with have a pure % and a hybrid % added together. And there are many tiers of the same mod. I think it might confuse more people than it helps. Like, do you show the max possible or the max possible in the tier? The max possible in the tier would be more practically useful, but people would wonder why they see higher numbers on other items. When two mods combine do you show the max possible overall or the max possible in the two tiers the mods are from?

It would be useful for determining whether or not a divine orb would help if you kept the numbers in the tier's range. And maybe people wouldn't be surprised when they divine a legacy item and it rolls into the current available range.

Sorry, maybe I didn't clarify it- max possible in the tier. Things like "how many tiers there are" might be left to checking on the wiki, but knowing what max stats an item can have for the sake of divining and like I said before- determining value for trading - would be pretty nice.

Bumping the thread. I can't believe no one else would want this.

Actually it's only really useful in the scenario mark1030 pointed out: when hybrid mods are at work, and it's really hard to be sure of which tier you're in.

For the simpler mods, after checking up once or twice it's easy to recognize the top tier mods. The players who would benefit most from this suggestion would be the casual ones who would never venture this deep into the forums. (Hence apparently no support for the idea. :p )

C'mon be honest, your "two hours of research" was really like 3 minutes?

Anyway, vote +1, for the hybrid mods.

No,I mean two hours, when I sort and look through 10+ tabs full of rares.
I'm not super casual,played for over 300 hours when the game was in beta and now I played 200+ on steam since my return less than a month ago. Just got my 4th character to lvl 71 and I'm soon leveling them all one by one to 90 and even with this fair amount of time spent with the game I have to spend a lot of time doing research.

Maybe I'd know all the numbers if I watched hours of streams and went on the forum every two hours, but I really don't want to spend my spare time on that nor have to remember it all so I end up with not being able to trade. Poe.trade isn't very helpful in the matter and I'm not going to be one of the tools yelling "PC" in chat.

In short- without spending additional time on research a player that's not fully devoted to the game has no option to be able to determine the value of his drops and has to hoard a lot of useless junk so that one day when he has the time he can check if any of it is worth crafting at least.


Besides, what I said earlier still makes the suggestion reasonable on the level that even a somewhat "seasoned" player can still be clueless about a lot of the game aspects, not to mention research sources. In addition I don't see why the mods range couldn't be listed like:

Item level : xx
Item tier: x
Prefix : x(max y)
affix: x (max y)

I JUST this minute discovered poemods,so I guess my problem will be pretty much solved, but my suggestion still stands, only thing is I would modify it to "top tier + hybrid mods".

that would still help liven up the economy with low value currency trade, because noobs would see that their "super-duper PC PLZ" leather armour is tier 3/10 and the mods it has are somewhere in the middle for the specific tier so they'd know that the thing they think is hot shit is just plain shit. On the other hand top rolls could be sold for alches,jewelers or fuses with ease and an additional source of profit,no matter how small, is always good and definitely better than trading through the forums and other outside mediums.

I would love this to be a feature in the game. Maybe the most people are not really familiar of what you're talking about, or they've just don't read your post completely.

Actually there is a AutoHotkey script that does exactly what you've asked in this thread. But there is an external program (AutoHotkey) needs to be installed and running - what I don't want to use:
https://sites.google.com/site/poeiteminfoscript/

Forum Site: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/790438

And from that this post actually has 67 sites, you can be sure it's something a lot of people would love to see.

GGG if you read this: PLEASE implement this in a future patch, maybe by pressing CTRL while hover over an item. :)

Cheers,
Zal

Thanks for the reply and thank you for the information about that script!

I know what you mean about the script. I'm not really thrilled about using it, but if there's no hint that such a feature would be implemented then I guess I'll have to.

Like you observed- based on 67 pages on the script thread it looks like it is in high demand and I really hope it'll be put in the game, especially since - script being proof - it IS doable and all the information is there, all it needs is composing into the game and working it out with the UI.

Just as a reminder(as I said it before) it would liven up the economy greatly, especially lower tier currency trade. I mean, besides currency exchange, how often can you buy an item for an alch(masters and maybe trading via websites/forums aside)? This would also be a grat help to all the new players who will be introduced to the game with "Awakening". The amount of thing in PoE is already overwhelming for new players so every help would make it easier for everyone("PC my crappy rare that has stat numbers I've never seen before because it's a tier higher than what I usually get") and make some nice options for lower level/not spending 8 hours a day playing PoE +3 hours trading people who don't have 200 exalts for "that highest tier 6L unique"

Hi,

sorry for necroing this old thread (but I´m a necromancer, so I´m allowed to do that).

I found this thread while googleing "poe display item stats range".

Only a week ago I came back to the game after taking a long pause and I was wondering if this issue is now solved somehow?

I absolutely suck at figuring out whether and item is "valuable" or not. I usually import an item into poe.trade and get an idea. But it takes so long to do this for every single "suspiciously good" item after a long evening of farming.

So - is there an easier way to display the tiers of pre- and suffixes and the min-max range? It would be so helpful!

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IamLoco escreveu:

Only a week ago I came back to the game after taking a long pause and I was wondering if this issue is now solved somehow?

no, ggg actually made it worse by having essences applying even more affix ranges while hiding the fact that the item was essence crafted.

which resulted in the affix tiers being totally fucked up and people being pissed on each other after they traded for items with many exalts which supposedly could be improved but only got worse by divining them.

what started as "expertism by obscurity" is a mess right now. why? only ggg knows, they deliberately designed essences with the goal of total obfuscation.

chris' plans for dumping the real item stats (separated by affix and maybe showing the affix type) into the win clipboard never materialised. this results in tools showing like the poeiteminfo script still failing at every second item with hybdid affixes.

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conclusion: ggg is not interested in users knowing the exact affixes of an item.