[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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KingNathan escreveu:
Ahh, thank you very much!
I was trying to look over my tree to see what I've missed but I couldn't find it, I saw on my tree i had 4 points left and he had 2. what else should I put the points in?

actually now I dont have any points to spare, I know the char I'm looking at is lv 100 so it has 3 more skill points than I (with 2 left over, unused). However, seems that he has more than that. I could not find any left over points to invest in the last node for that one curse.

Additionally, I do not have the points to get the "Sanctity" node. As well as the four nodes that lead into the jewel socket past "Alacrity".

I did the "/passives" command and it says I have 120 total AND allocated points.

So I took a point out of one of the lifes nodes connected to "Discipline and Training". Which doesn't solve the problem, but I'm still wondering.


I think it just might be a bunch of little things that started to add up really.

I'm sure Mika will be able to help you out more than I can, but at a glance, you have your starting tree with minion damage instead of the ES nodes. I'm not sure how your damage is looking, but I'd imagine it's really good, so since you're having problems getting killed and most likely not doing the damage, I think taking those nodes would help some.

Looks like you have flesh offering, and when in no danger is nice, but since you are dying, bone offering would also help.

The gear while amazing on res capping is lacking in ES a lot. I'm using Occultist and I was able to cap mine while still having decent ES on my gear. I think a pair of higher ES gloves would help quite a lot.

It could be play style as well. I died a lot the first time I played a build like this, but this is my fifth league with golems, and after some time you just know how to kite all the enemies.

I'm sure Mika can help you out a lot more than I can, but those are some things I noticed.
Thanks for your input, It doesn't have to be from Miko necessarily, and I do appreciate it. I do not see any gloves that have the same resistances as well as energy shield on the market. I'm also not sure how to go about crafting such a beautiful pair of gloves, either.

Aside from that, I imagine my rings could also use more energy shield as well. I guess I'll try bone instead of flesh offering and also take those ES nodes.

Wonder if I'm going crazy or is 3 levels really the only difference between our skill points.



I can definitely notice the difference in using one curse than using both, like I'm supposed to, works wonders, thanks again!

Also, I'm trying to work my way to get one of those Watcher Eye's jewel that miko has in one of their jewel slots. But is that jewel really worth upwards of 20EX?


UPDATE: have acquired the jewel, took the Es nodes and switched out victaros for rathplith and specced out of Necromantic Aegis (6.4K ES with Discipline) . and then an alternative(; keep victaros but switch out flesh offering for bone offering with the ES nodes and NEcromantic Aegis.(5.5K ES with Discipline)
NOt dying a lot but ES decreases fast and even with this jewel my hp goes down pretty quick since its only around 2.3k


Also need to get a +1 vis mortis but that seems impossible, and with the same colors as his.
Última edição por SlapStickComedy#7644 em 12 de jan de 2019 13:03:10
You might like how the Occultist plays KingNathan, since you're having ES issues. I switched over from Necro and love it. No way I would ever start as Occultist, but it's nice once you're fully geared up. Here's my list of pros and cons, and Mika has a great list as well on the first page.

Pros:
Delve is a LOT better
Run T16 maps stupidly(how you just run through say T8 or 9 with no fear of dying, now I do that with T16)
The carpet bombing is pretty nice.
Almost always being full ES is amazing.
Gaining some extra passives since no extra curse node is not needed is cool.
Switched to a nicer pantheon.
Die less

Cons:
Less resistances
Offering not working on me stinks.
Bosses take longer to kill(though most of them it's not that big of a difference)
Double Convocation cool down time. Huge for me, I cast it myself, and really miss casting it almost nonstop.
Uber Elder and Minotaur both kill my specs

I think when I was necro I was pretty close to your ES when using Vic for shield. I upgraded a few things since, but I'm sitting at just under 8K now(7,977 ES with 2.7K life).

If you're planning on doing uber elder a lot, necro is a lot less hassle since specs don't die, but honestly I'm enjoying Occultist at end game more than Necro, could also be because I played 4 of my 5 leagues with golems as Necro too.
Animate Guardian always die =( 23 lvl
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sumfight escreveu:
You might like how the Occultist plays KingNathan, since you're having ES issues. I switched over from Necro and love it. No way I would ever start as Occultist, but it's nice once you're fully geared up. Here's my list of pros and cons, and Mika has a great list as well on the first page.

Pros:
Delve is a LOT better
Run T16 maps stupidly(how you just run through say T8 or 9 with no fear of dying, now I do that with T16)
The carpet bombing is pretty nice.
Almost always being full ES is amazing.
Gaining some extra passives since no extra curse node is not needed is cool.
Switched to a nicer pantheon.
Die less

Cons:
Less resistances
Offering not working on me stinks.
Bosses take longer to kill(though most of them it's not that big of a difference)
Double Convocation cool down time. Huge for me, I cast it myself, and really miss casting it almost nonstop.
Uber Elder and Minotaur both kill my specs

I think when I was necro I was pretty close to your ES when using Vic for shield. I upgraded a few things since, but I'm sitting at just under 8K now(7,977 ES with 2.7K life).

If you're planning on doing uber elder a lot, necro is a lot less hassle since specs don't die, but honestly I'm enjoying Occultist at end game more than Necro, could also be because I played 4 of my 5 leagues with golems as Necro too.


Hmm not sure, never played anything other than Necromancer. Sounds cool though. It's just that I wanna get like how he is in the video, though.
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Edit: Good idea for this league. Get ES, with itemlevel Elder helmet base. Craft it using chaos-crafting Tiny's Trial :D. A LOT cheaper! +% quality from fossils and veiled mods is also nice addition!

OP, can you include fossils crafting +1 Specters / movement speed / res / life boots in crafting section?


Hello :)

Thanks for posting very detailed crafting guide! I will be adding it in the guide shortly but will have to format it inline with other crafting guides I have and also buy the components to link.

Idea to craft under Tiny's trial sounds very good also :)


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What do you guys think of the passive "Chaos Inoculation" together with the offhand shield "Apep's Supremacy".

We would be immune to Chaos and Bleeding and could therefore use a different amulet that Chayula!

And what about The Queen's Hunger Vaal Regalia for us or the Animate Guardian??? Lots of possiblities..

Thoughts???

PS: Is it of any use if our Weapon has the corrupted mods:

"% chance to Fortify on Melee hit"

or

"% chance to gain Onslaught for 4 seconds on Kill"

or won't these get triggered by our minions?

Thanks!


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I think that current setup gives more effective life total then going CI. But I would need to check your suggestion.


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"On Kill" effect would not be triggered often, even when using culling strike.
"On Melee hit" Fortify is an option, but not a good one (in compare with Phasing): remember that it is a chance (so you need to be involved in combat most of the time) and melee (so you need to be up-close).

Mods like you discribed would be ok but in case of a build fighting along minions (Dominating Blow + minions or sth like that).


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What do you guys think?

The Queen's Hunger
Vaal Regalia

Rarity: Unique

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Energy Shield: 375 (augmented)
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Requirements:
Level: 68
Int: 194
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Sockets: B-B-G-B-B-R
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Item Level: 85
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Trigger Level 20 Bone Offering, Flesh Offering or Spirit Offering every 5 seconds
Offering Skills Triggered this way also affect you
Your Offerings have 25% reduced Effect on you
6% increased Cast Speed
130% increased Energy Shield
9% increased maximum Life
You can apply an additional Curse
120 Energy Shield Regenerated per second while a Rare or Unique Enemy is Nearby
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In their crimson nightmare, the Vaal are still sacrificing themselves to her glory and beauty.
They stab their own hearts and cry out in ecstasy, only to rise again.
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-> Opens up 2 Ascendancy Passives and the whole gloves gems


Hey :)

Yep, Chaos innoculation gives much less EHP (HP + ES) than what hybrid can get. Chaos resistance is also pretty cheap to stack in rare items as hybrid gear is not very expensive.

You only get kills from Tukohama Vanguards as they are Damage over time kills. Fortify and Onslaught are nice but their source very unreliable. Increased of area effect is best Clayshaper corrupt.

Animate Guardian cant trigger any skills in the item. best armor choices are Gruthkul's Pelt or Zahndethus' Cassock.

The Queen's Hunger has nice ES, but from what I understand it triggers offerings at random? If it triggers offering of your choice, then +1 corrupt one will be nice option. If it's random offering, then it's not very effective.

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Hey Mika, does your guild have any more space?

also how do i craft that unset ring with +3 gems and all those mods?

Also not sure whaT I'm doing wrong but i went into a t15 and i got like 2-3 hit could you check my gear and see whats up?


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Not Mika, but you are trying to use two curses but don't have the skill allocated to be able to use two of them.


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Ahh, thank you very much!
I was trying to look over my tree to see what I've missed but I couldn't find it, I saw on my tree i had 4 points left and he had 2. what else should I put the points in?

actually now I dont have any points to spare, I know the char I'm looking at is lv 100 so it has 3 more skill points than I (with 2 left over, unused). However, seems that he has more than that. I could not find any left over points to invest in the last node for that one curse.

Additionally, I do not have the points to get the "Sanctity" node. As well as the four nodes that lead into the jewel socket past "Alacrity".

I did the "/passives" command and it says I have 120 total AND allocated points.

So I took a point out of one of the lifes nodes connected to "Discipline and Training". Which doesn't solve the problem, but I'm still wondering.


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I think it just might be a bunch of little things that started to add up really.

I'm sure Mika will be able to help you out more than I can, but at a glance, you have your starting tree with minion damage instead of the ES nodes. I'm not sure how your damage is looking, but I'd imagine it's really good, so since you're having problems getting killed and most likely not doing the damage, I think taking those nodes would help some.

Looks like you have flesh offering, and when in no danger is nice, but since you are dying, bone offering would also help.

The gear while amazing on res capping is lacking in ES a lot. I'm using Occultist and I was able to cap mine while still having decent ES on my gear. I think a pair of higher ES gloves would help quite a lot.

It could be play style as well. I died a lot the first time I played a build like this, but this is my fifth league with golems, and after some time you just know how to kite all the enemies.

I'm sure Mika can help you out a lot more than I can, but those are some things I noticed.


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Thanks for your input, It doesn't have to be from Miko necessarily, and I do appreciate it. I do not see any gloves that have the same resistances as well as energy shield on the market. I'm also not sure how to go about crafting such a beautiful pair of gloves, either.

Aside from that, I imagine my rings could also use more energy shield as well. I guess I'll try bone instead of flesh offering and also take those ES nodes.

Wonder if I'm going crazy or is 3 levels really the only difference between our skill points.

I can definitely notice the difference in using one curse than using both, like I'm supposed to, works wonders, thanks again!

Also, I'm trying to work my way to get one of those Watcher Eye's jewel that miko has in one of their jewel slots. But is that jewel really worth upwards of 20EX?

UPDATE: have acquired the jewel, took the Es nodes and switched out victaros for rathplith and specced out of Necromantic Aegis (6.4K ES with Discipline) . and then an alternative(; keep victaros but switch out flesh offering for bone offering with the ES nodes and NEcromantic Aegis.(5.5K ES with Discipline) NOt dying a lot but ES decreases fast and even with this jewel my hp goes down pretty quick since its only around 2.3k

Also need to get a +1 vis mortis but that seems impossible, and with the same colors as his.


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You might like how the Occultist plays KingNathan, since you're having ES issues. I switched over from Necro and love it. No way I would ever start as Occultist, but it's nice once you're fully geared up. Here's my list of pros and cons, and Mika has a great list as well on the first page.

Pros:
Delve is a LOT better
Run T16 maps stupidly(how you just run through say T8 or 9 with no fear of dying, now I do that with T16)
The carpet bombing is pretty nice.
Almost always being full ES is amazing.
Gaining some extra passives since no extra curse node is not needed is cool.
Switched to a nicer pantheon.
Die less

Cons:
Less resistances
Offering not working on me stinks.
Bosses take longer to kill(though most of them it's not that big of a difference)
Double Convocation cool down time. Huge for me, I cast it myself, and really miss casting it almost nonstop.
Uber Elder and Minotaur both kill my specs

I think when I was necro I was pretty close to your ES when using Vic for shield. I upgraded a few things since, but I'm sitting at just under 8K now(7,977 ES with 2.7K life).

If you're planning on doing uber elder a lot, necro is a lot less hassle since specs don't die, but honestly I'm enjoying Occultist at end game more than Necro, could also be because I played 4 of my


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Hmm not sure, never played anything other than Necromancer. Sounds cool though. It's just that I wanna get like how he is in the video, though.


Hey :)

Guild has been tightly packed at 130/130 for a while now. I will be posting in thread when we get free / more slots. Hopefully you can join then ^^

As Sumfight pointed out, extra curse is really important for survival / DPS.

I would rather take the ES nodes from witch start rather than minion damage. You want to max EHP (HP + ES) to take big physical hits with 0% armor.

Animate Guardian with Dying Breath also caps Temporal Chains with Skittering Runes, so there's no need to take 10% curse effect when going to extra curse node.

Good values for gear are :
-> [Presence of Chayula] Amulet (40+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances, [20% increased max ES])
-> Rings (40+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances, [Minion Speed])
-> [Crystal] Belt (110+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances)
-> Rare boots (90+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances, +1 Spectre, [movement speed])
-> Gloves (150+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances)

I crafted some of my own gear with :
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Essence of fear and then crafted "increased ES %" when it was not legacy. costed about 1 ex worth of Essence to get decent results. For +3 rings, I would rather look for it in trade or try even +2 rolls as the +3 is pretty hard to get if you don't have thousands of alterations to spare.


Forced with Vorici. Bought some random 2 link Vis Mortis with +1 level and bought 1600 vaals + 1500 fusing to force the links. I guess endcost was about 15-20 ex as ex:vaal was super cheap.


Using similar method that "Fukurokage" posted in earlier page 368. Costed around 40-50c to get decent results.

Crafted very similar with using the tried alteration spam. I think I used roughly 400 alts to get decent belt and 2000-3000 alts to get gloves. I had self crafted on in earlier videos.

Watcher's Eye is nice extra and helps to get ES back faster while kiting, but not required in anyway or very OP.

If you get high EHP on all rare gear, you should have more ES to spare during the boss fights ;)

Occultist is very safe and nice Ascendancy to play also if yoy want to run something extremely safe. I'm lvl 100 myself and like to go for max bossing speed, so my own setup is not exactly the safest compared to guides default. It also requires plenty of kiting skills and knowledge of dangerous boss moves. However it's extremely fun way to play :)


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hey just about ur opinion :D

Soul's Wick Cobalt Jewel
+2 to maximum number of Spectres
50% reduced Mana Cost of Raise Spectre
Spectres have 1000% increased Critical Strike Chance
Spectres have a Base Duration of 20 seconds Spectres do not travel between Areas


Hello :)

Random Specters are very hard to support with gems as they all have different skills they use. We want to focus on certain Specter and not change then every map areas.


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Animate Guardian always die =( 23 lvl


Hey :)

I have been running my own test with AG mostly in standard but have not noticed any very dangerous situations with it. However guild members reported that AG has been dying against Syndicates. It seems that league sill has very high chaos damage even after then Synd nerfs.

I will be doing some tweaking in AG gear. For now I can recommend trying "Zahndethus' Cassock" instead of "Gruthkul's Pelt" as it will cap AGs chaos res.

Other things that are dangerous to AG are :
- Vis Mortis = -20% HP
- Running not Necro Ascendancy = Losing 40% increased life

So running AG in Occultist / Ele + using Vis Mortis will cut tons of AGs life-total. I will put notes that AG and Vis Mortis are safest to use with Necro.




UPDATE

Animate Guardians gear

Changed Animate Guardians default armor from :

to

as it seems that Syndicate members are dealing heavy chaos damage to it in league.

Also added notes that Animate Guardian is safest to use only with "Necromancer" Ascendancy as it gets 40% increased life + extra HP regen from Ascendancy nodes.




+1 Spectre boots crafting

UPDATE : Added "+1 Spectres boots" crafting guide, thanks to "Fukurokage" for help!. Added in FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS -> HOW TO CRAFT ITEMS? I will be reformatting it later with item links.
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f
Última edição por mika2salo#7776 em 13 de jan de 2019 07:09:28

just corrupted this bad boy. didn't even know that was corruption mod. just saved me a unset ring.
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mika2salo escreveu:

You only get kills from Tukohama Vanguards as they are Damage over time kills. Fortify and Onslaught are nice but their source very unreliable. Increased of area effect is best Clayshaper corrupt.



Why do we only proc the "on kill mods" via Tukohama Vanguards?? Firegolems also kill.. I don't get that..can you please explain?

And how is increased area of effect corrupt on Clayshaper any useful ??

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mika2salo escreveu:
Bought some random 2 link Vis Mortis with +1 level and bought 1600 vaals + 1500 fusing to force the links. I guess endcost was about 15-20 ex as ex:vaal was super cheap.


Can you explain, how you change the amount and colour of sockets in an already corrupted armour??? Thank you! :)


What do you guys think of these 2 Flasks for our build?

- Withfire Brew

- Coruscating Elixir



Cheers! =)
Última edição por Dan_Rey#2146 em 13 de jan de 2019 08:00:06


What do you think about it?


I just made this, obv not as OP as the one just posted above. My friends want me to annul but I dont think I wanna try just yet.

May question is: do you think the 20% minion life craft enables me to use a different support gem? Like multiple totems support or something like that?

Cheers!

P.S. Killed my first uber elder with this build. Obv no watcher's eye luck but I am down to 3 portals for uelder kill (started needing 11 ... so two tickets basically yikes)

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