[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

1) So how does "+3 Level of socketed gems" work now with Raise Spectre?

Is PoB right on numbers? If so, this would clearly outclass + "30% Elemental Damage of socketed gems" on helmet..


On the other hand POE wiki says it only gives +6% more HP/ES/Damage per additional level..and a bit accuracy..

I'm confused.

2) Anyone ever tested "Malachai's Loop Harmonic Spirit Shield"

or "Tukohama's Fortress" together with Necromantic Aegis?

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Thanks for support ^^

Here's short list of things you might want to upgrade :

- You really should get pseudo 6-7 link helmet asap. Good Start are : 150+ ES, Minion damage + burning damage, maybe minion life and resistances. Link : http://poe.trade/search/imgatasinonini
- Gloves (150+ ES, 50+ HP, Resistances)
- Rare Boots (100+ ES, 20+ Movement, Spectre, resistances. link http://poe.trade/search/onihitosasiyet)

For the boss fights

Move all the time in the fights. Try to circle around the boss so that Temp Chains hits the boss, but boss can't hit you with melee attacks. Stop to cast Winter Orb only when your 100% sure that it's safe. Boss will die pretty quickly even without Elemental Equilibrium anyway.

Hope this helps ;)

Thank you for you support! :-D

What do you think of my setup now? I bought the helmet yesterday, but think it's pretty ok...
What about rings and belt?
Now I have to test the output! :-)
I'll come back, when I got the results... ;-)

Very good guide, i like it alot. Ofc my gear aint even close to yours, but im getting there, eventually :P
So far the funniest build i played in a long time, it will be my new sticker :D

Still i must be doing something wrong, it doesnt matter if i put in 3 or 6 Primordial Harmony, i never get more than 4 golems. Atm im using the "empty" sockets to other jewels, but another golem would be nice.
Having 4 spectres and 4 golems atm.

If someomone could correct my error it would be most appreciated.

POB link: https://pastebin.com/9wgbXXFq

Cheers

/Jigbod

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DonnieDice escreveu:

How do you stop your Animate Guardian from dying?

Hello :)

In what conditions AG is dying?

You have lvl 19 AG gem and you are using Vis Mortis which lowers minion life by 20%. This should be compensated by using at least lvl 20 or maybe 21 AG as it will get about 10% more HP per level.

You also don't have "commander of darkness", which gives AG 20% elemental resistances from your aura. If you don't use commander of darkness, make sure that AG is using Rainbowstrides instead of Victarios Flight as flights dont have any resistance.

Make sure that AG has max level and capped elemental resistances and if should be fine ;)

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1) So how does "+3 Level of socketed gems" work now with Raise Spectre?

Is PoB right on numbers? If so, this would clearly outclass + "30% Elemental Damage of socketed gems" on helmet..

On the other hand POE wiki says it only gives +6% more HP/ES/Damage per additional level..and a bit accuracy..

I'm confused.

2) Anyone ever tested "Malachai's Loop Harmonic Spirit Shield"

or "Tukohama's Fortress" together with Necromantic Aegis?

Hi :)

1)
I'm guessing that it has more to do with what level Specs PoB defaults you using. With 20/20 Spec gem, I don't think it's using lvl 84 Specs as default. However I don't know what level Specs it is using with lvl 20 gem, so comparing the default to manually setting Specs to 84 is pretty difficult.

2)
"Tukohama's Fortress" is still blocked and Spec don't get extra totems.

"Malachai's Loop" should work and minions get +2 power charges but they lose them instantly when reaching 5x so damage bonus is minimal. They are also constantly shocked with is bad for survival.

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Thank you for you support! :-D

What do you think of my setup now? I bought the helmet yesterday, but think it's pretty ok...
What about rings and belt?
Now I have to test the output! :-)
I'll come back, when I got the results... ;-)

Hey :)

Np, glad to help ;)

The Helmet is looking pretty good, please apply scraps to it as you miss lot of ES as it's quality 0% now.

Belt is has nice EHP (HP + ES) but resistances are pretty low. Upgrade would be good in future. Please use "Blesses Orb" on the belt to roll only the upper line to 80 ES. Now its 71 which is very low.

Rings have nice ES, but resistances are mediocre. Minion speed in rings would be nice QOL upgrade, but I would not trade much EHP or resistances for it.

Boots and helmet are now much better. Working on right direction ;)

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Very good guide, i like it alot. Ofc my gear aint even close to yours, but im getting there, eventually :P
So far the funniest build i played in a long time, it will be my new sticker :D

Still i must be doing something wrong, it doesnt matter if i put in 3 or 6 Primordial Harmony, i never get more than 4 golems. Atm im using the "empty" sockets to other jewels, but another golem would be nice.
Having 4 spectres and 4 golems atm.

If someomone could correct my error it would be most appreciated.

POB link: https://pastebin.com/9wgbXXFq

Cheers

/Jigbod

Thanks for support ^^

4x Golems is the max number :
- 1x From just gem
- 1x From just Clayshaper
- 1x From just Anima Stone
- 1x From gem Anima Stone when you have 3x other primordial jewels equipped.

You need other Clayshaper, Elementalist or Primordial Chain to increase their number. However build works perfectly fine with 4x Golems as they can clear trash mob in 1-2 shots.

You have very life based gear, but build has more ES nodes from the tree. I would stack max ES on each piece of gear and HP only if its possible as extra.

You can also :
- Upgrade Golems to 21/0 from 20/20 as extra level is much stronger than just quality
- I really recommend using the dual curse setup with Temporal Chains + Enhance. It's among best defenses in the game and has massive effect when you get it in action. You can die to trash mobs lot, lot easier without it as you have 0% armor and can use flask only for HP part.
- Apply Armorers scraps to boots. You are missing ES atm.

Good or ideal values for rare items are :
-> [Presence of Chayula] Amulet (40+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances, [20% increased max ES])
-> Rings (40+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances, [Minion Speed])
-> [Crystal] Belt (110+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances)
-> Rare boots (90+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances, +1 Spectre, [movement speed])
-> Gloves (150+ ES, 40+ HP, Resistances)

I will keep upgrading the guide in future too. Build has only got buffs last 3-4 leagues so lets see what it gets next league ;)

I failed on my first Uber Elder attempt. Any tips? There's nothing in the bosses section of the guide about it, even though it's the only content I've come up against where gear changes actually seem necessary. I teched in Purity of Ice. Kaltensoul seems obvious, but should it be on me or my minions? Are Kaom's Roots worth it? My curses weren't doing much in the fight, but the environmental slows were killing me. Should I drop all of my utility flasks for sapphires?
Specifically for my setup - would I be gimping my spectre damage too much if I put zombies in the helm over elemental focus, or should I just drop them altogether and respec? (BTW I failed using SotL and no zombies, not my current gear/tree). Lvl 23 Guardian in helm with minion life and resistances in place of multiple totems should keep it alive against UE, but is Dying Breath, 12% Elemental Weakness curse and -9% fire res worth the loss in totems? Also I can easily replace my Vengeance Hold unset ring for something better, I just like to put zombies in it when I'm mapping.

Do you ever have your flame golems die in incursions? It's the only place I've had them die regularly (other than UE), and I'm not sure why.

I remember reading something you wrote about the ideal cooldown/cast speed flame golems need for max efficiency, but I can't find it again. Where in PoB should I be looking for this info? I'm still not entirely sure which of immolate, magma ball and flame wave are my flame golems' main damage dealers.

Any free spots in the guild?

Appreciate all the help you give.

Anyone playing this build? How does it feel against uber elder or uber atziri?

Btw, I realy appreciate this guide as a newbie. It's the first guide that tells me how to craft and what should I look in crafts <3

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Hey :)

Np, glad to help ;)

The Helmet is looking pretty good, please apply scraps to it as you miss lot of ES as it's quality 0% now.

Belt is has nice EHP (HP + ES) but resistances are pretty low. Upgrade would be good in future. Please use "Blesses Orb" on the belt to roll only the upper line to 80 ES. Now its 71 which is very low.

Rings have nice ES, but resistances are mediocre. Minion speed in rings would be nice QOL upgrade, but I would not trade much EHP or resistances for it.

Boots and helmet are now much better. Working on right direction ;)

Thank you so much man!

Totally missed the quality on the Helmet! :-D
The Belt now has 79 ES - much better I guess! ;-)
I also checked a bit late, that my fire-resistance wasn't capped! I guess this was the point why I had zero chance against "Guardian of the Phoenix"! :-/

The rings will be the next big thing then... :-)

Btw. any tipps for delphing? The defensive movement is alot harder I think and therefore I'm dying much more often!

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JimmyRuzzle escreveu:

I failed on my first Uber Elder attempt. Any tips? There's nothing in the bosses section of the guide about it, even though it's the only content I've come up against where gear changes actually seem necessary. I teched in Purity of Ice. Kaltensoul seems obvious, but should it be on me or my minions? Are Kaom's Roots worth it? My curses weren't doing much in the fight, but the environmental slows were killing me. Should I drop all of my utility flasks for sapphires?
Specifically for my setup - would I be gimping my spectre damage too much if I put zombies in the helm over elemental focus, or should I just drop them altogether and respec? (BTW I failed using SotL and no zombies, not my current gear/tree). Lvl 23 Guardian in helm with minion life and resistances in place of multiple totems should keep it alive against UE, but is Dying Breath, 12% Elemental Weakness curse and -9% fire res worth the loss in totems? Also I can easily replace my Vengeance Hold unset ring for something better, I just like to put zombies in it when I'm mapping.

Do you ever have your flame golems die in incursions? It's the only place I've had them die regularly (other than UE), and I'm not sure why.

I remember reading something you wrote about the ideal cooldown/cast speed flame golems need for max efficiency, but I can't find it again. Where in PoB should I be looking for this info? I'm still not entirely sure which of immolate, magma ball and flame wave are my flame golems' main damage dealers.

Any free spots in the guild?

Appreciate all the help you give.

iam going to have my first uber elder attempt soon too and thought about how to change setup.
if would change my shield i would use aegis aurora, also 5% max cold res but higher block and around 200es while kaltensoul has 0. still not sure tho becouse i would loose 500es anyway.
what is preferable for uber elder 82%cold + 9.7k effHP or 87%cold + 9.1k effHP???
since it was adviced to remove AG in that fight i will use PurityofIce in my ring instead to get it lvl23 + my aura-effectnodes it will give me 6%coldmax.

no idea on my flask setup. should i use only sapphire flasks or keep 1 rumis 1 quicksilver flask? 2 lifeflasks or 1 life + 1 sapphire??
is there other stuff i could do to make the fight easier??
i have 2 free sockets i change around a lot lately, what would you recommend to put in there?? have cwdt+tempest shield atm.

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JimmyRuzzle escreveu:

I failed on my first Uber Elder attempt. Any tips? There's nothing in the bosses section of the guide about it, even though it's the only content I've come up against where gear changes actually seem necessary. I teched in Purity of Ice. Kaltensoul seems obvious, but should it be on me or my minions? Are Kaom's Roots worth it? My curses weren't doing much in the fight, but the environmental slows were killing me. Should I drop all of my utility flasks for sapphires?
Specifically for my setup - would I be gimping my spectre damage too much if I put zombies in the helm over elemental focus, or should I just drop them altogether and respec? (BTW I failed using SotL and no zombies, not my current gear/tree). Lvl 23 Guardian in helm with minion life and resistances in place of multiple totems should keep it alive against UE, but is Dying Breath, 12% Elemental Weakness curse and -9% fire res worth the loss in totems? Also I can easily replace my Vengeance Hold unset ring for something better, I just like to put zombies in it when I'm mapping.

Do you ever have your flame golems die in incursions? It's the only place I've had them die regularly (other than UE), and I'm not sure why.

I remember reading something you wrote about the ideal cooldown/cast speed flame golems need for max efficiency, but I can't find it again. Where in PoB should I be looking for this info? I'm still not entirely sure which of immolate, magma ball and flame wave are my flame golems' main damage dealers.

Any free spots in the guild?

Appreciate all the help you give.

"

Anyone playing this build? How does it feel against uber elder or uber atziri?

Btw, I realy appreciate this guide as a newbie. It's the first guide that tells me how to craft and what should I look in crafts <3

"

Thank you so much man!

Totally missed the quality on the Helmet! :-D
The Belt now has 79 ES - much better I guess! ;-)
I also checked a bit late, that my fire-resistance wasn't capped! I guess this was the point why I had zero chance against "Guardian of the Phoenix"! :-/

The rings will be the next big thing then... :-)

Btw. any tipps for delphing? The defensive movement is alot harder I think and therefore I'm dying much more often!

"

iam going to have my first uber elder attempt soon too and thought about how to change setup.
if would change my shield i would use aegis aurora, also 5% max cold res but higher block and around 200es while kaltensoul has 0. still not sure tho becouse i would loose 500es anyway.
what is preferable for uber elder 82%cold + 9.7k effHP or 87%cold + 9.1k effHP???
since it was adviced to remove AG in that fight i will use PurityofIce in my ring instead to get it lvl23 + my aura-effectnodes it will give me 6%coldmax.

no idea on my flask setup. should i use only sapphire flasks or keep 1 rumis 1 quicksilver flask? 2 lifeflasks or 1 life + 1 sapphire??
is there other stuff i could do to make the fight easier??
i have 2 free sockets i change around a lot lately, what would you recommend to put in there?? have cwdt+tempest shield atm.

Thanks for support ^^

For Uber Elder :

Necro

Drop Necromantic Aegis and use Kaltensoul or Aegis Aurora. Shaper deals both ice and fire damage so Kaltensoul gives dual resistances.

Occultist / Elementalist

Use Necromantic Aegis and Kaltensoul to boost Spectres resistances especially if you are not using helmet with minion life. Missing 100% life from Soul Weaver makes TV Specs more vulnerable against Uber Elder.

All

Use Purity of Ice instead of curses and few Sapphire Flasks. Stacking as much cold res on you & minions as possible is important for survival.

Try to run around bosses so that you have both bosses in sight. Keep Phase Run up as much as possible and be ready to hit cold res flask if Shaper beam hits you.

(Optional)

Stack as much movement speed as possible. This way you will move faster than Shaper Slam or Elder Siphon can connect. This makes you immune to about 50% of the dangerous attacks. You can just run around the area and focus on dodging beam and staying inside Elder circle. This is my own favorite way to cheese elder. Example in https://youtu.be/JlBEiHzhgDw

Uber Elder takes practice with build as it has about 0% armor and Shaper Smash can 1 hit. However with bit practice and especially very high movement speed you will be able to dodge dangerous moves. Many guild members are able to do Uber Elder deathless after few successful runs. I would try to overcap as much as possible sacrificing some EHP, as res lets you tank beam longer.

Wish you best of luck in your UE fights ;)

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Zombies will die instantly in the fight and Animate Guardian maybe too without at least Minion life & Empower. My Golems die only to reflect damage if I'm using Vis Mortis. I guess not having +1 level corrupt Armor lowers their HP quite a bit. Using Sotl will keep the alive much better.

JimmyRuzzle -> Why do you have zombie Ascendancy node when you are not using Zombie gem? Puppet Master would be generally better.

Sorry but the guild is full atm. All older offline members are already cleaned so I have to wait till some active member leaves or we get donation to buy more slots. I will clean offlines again 1-2 week after next league launches, so there will be open slots then ;)

For Delves keep Phase Run active and run through all packs until you reach the node. Temporal Chains will keep you alive with lower aggro from Phase Run. In the node make sure you have max light radius and dark resistance. You can run far from the node fight and spam Offering off-screen. It's pretty cheesy but very safe tactics.

Thanx a bunch!

Your recommendation was a winner, just followed your advice to the letter. I fibbled around with the nodes as you said, raised ES way up, aswell as minion DPS.. never killed shaper as fast as i do now..:D

A bit improvement, i traded out the ES helm (100 ES) and the rings aswell as the boots.. what do you think? 2.3K HP and 6.3K ES .. would love a "Bone helmet" with same stats as my "Fluted Bascinet", but then i must sell my last kidney, and i kinda need it! :D

New POB: https://pastebin.com/JDnU7pTU
Old POB: https://pastebin.com/9wgbXXFq

You made the game new again! Im having so much fun! *giggles*

Cheers

/Jigbod

PS: If you have a spot free in your guild, im queuing! :D