[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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mika2salo escreveu:

Your helmet could work fine with Solar Guards as they benefit from conc effect?

Actually, that's not a bad idea. If it doesn't sell I'll maybe try that at some point. Thx :)

Found my starter with your build! Great guide! Still not sure if I want to go Necro or maybe Elementalist.

So here we go! L SC, with the goal to reach 100 for the first time with your build. I took 2 weeks of work, just to get a good "start"! :)

Is it possible for you to make a PoB with the lvling trees inside? I would love to see an updated tree with the mentioned +zombie nodes. :) A PoB with everything you need, from 30-123 points! :)

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TheSunliight escreveu:

Found my starter with your build! Great guide! Still not sure if I want to go Necro or maybe Elementalist.

So here we go! L SC, with the goal to reach 100 for the first time with your build. I took 2 weeks of work, just to get a good "start"! :)

Is it possible for you to make a PoB with the lvling trees inside? I would love to see an updated tree with the mentioned +zombie nodes. :) A PoB with everything you need, from 30-123 points! :)

Hello :)

Thanks! Guide took quite a while to write, but it should have about everything to really master the build now.

My recommendation is always to start as Necro as it's dirt cheap to level using Specters and Zombies. You can later swap to Elementalist if you want for few dozen regrets as the skill tree and most it items are identical between variants.

Level 100 is definitely reachable, but needs lot of time and some planning in most times. "Timmeh519" reached lvl 100 twice, but was playing most of the day for multiple weeks.

After level 95+ I recommend :
1) Hosting t12+ rare map parties (parties clear faster and are safer)
2) Joining rotations (6 players each run expensive EXP gain map in their turn)
3) Buying high EXP maps with low risk (Poorjoy's Asylum, etc)

I will be keeping place open for you in the hall of the fame ;)

If you want mapping company to lvl 100, there's room in Golemancer guild if your interested in joining.

I tried to tweak PoB to include all-in-one pack, but unfortunately I can't setup different items or links per "tree". Different leveling trees could work, I will have to see if it's possible to do it. I will add online trees for leveling part of the guide later when Poe Buddy gets updated to 3.7.0. It makes checking leveling trees easier. Or you can just import PoBs per step and save them in your Pob for offline use.

Zombie nodes are added in leveling part of the guide in LEVELING -> LEVELING SKILL TREE AND GEAR

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UPDATE

PS. I forgot to upgrade leveling PoBs. They are upgraded now and I will be adding online trees tomorrow when Poe Buddy updates. Thanks the notice!

Guess who dosen't need to read the patch note ?

Golemancers... it's a good thing, but it's kinda sad at the same time... T_T

Hello,

I've never played a summoner and i wanna try it in the legion. I have a couple of questions:

1) How expensive is this build? Is ~15 ex enough for killing shaper at least?
2) How fast is it in a map clearing?

Thx in advance.

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kami_koi escreveu:

Guess who dosen't need to read the patch note ?

Golemancers... it's a good thing, but it's kinda sad at the same time... T_T

Hello :)

Yep, I have been able to dodge nerfs for multiple leagues so far. I think that one of the reasons is that the build is collection of synergies and balanced interactions rather than riding on one apparently OP mechanic.

I have intentionally chosen only safe and already balanced skills / items to avoid nerfs in the future. This makes builds power pretty linear, but also extremely safe for players that want to enjoy same build from league to league(me especially ^^). It would feel very bad to for example increase DPS by 200% for league or two, and then report that it's being taken away when it gets eventually nerfed.

I hope the build will remain playable for years to come ^^

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Hello,

I've never played a summoner and i wanna try it in the legion. I have a couple of questions:

1) How expensive is this build? Is ~15 ex enough for killing shaper at least?
2) How fast is it in a map clearing?

Thx in advance.

Hey :)

1)
Build can kill shaper for much less than 15 ex. Quick estimate of prices at early-mid league could go like :
- Helmet = 30c (Pseudo 6-link with decent ES)
- Armor 2r2g2b = 20c, 2r1g3b = 3-4 ex
- All jewels = 1-1,5 ex
- Gloves = 20c
- Boots = 20c-1ex
- Amulet = 2-3 ex
- Rings = 20c each
- Clayshaper + Shield = 2c - 1ex if good rare ES shield
- Empower 3 + Enhance 3 = 30c

There estimates are for medium tier items, that you can already do all guardians with. Shaper is not much harder if you have some experience kiting the big attacks. Prices increase depending on how much EHP (HP + ES) buffer you want to have before the fight.

For Uber Elder grinding you need better gear and prices can start to be closer to 15 ex, but with that you are getting top tier items that will make you really safe.

You can easily farm t13+ maps with just Specters and zombies, which will cost about 1 ex for whole package if you want to get good EHP with great DPS.

2)
Clear speed is very good. Flame Golems are projectile based and have AOE damage. They can carpet bomb large area and their orbs will overlap and deal heavy damage over whole area. High level Golems can 1-2 shot whole packs in t16 maps.

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UPDATE

Online skill-trees are now up. Poe Buddy has not updated yet, so I had to make only skill-trees with Poe Planner for now. I will upgrade online trees to Poe Buddy later when it updates.

Hi

Thank you for your very detailed information.
I am very new to POE, started a week ago as a necromancer summoning all of minions except golems.
Do you think this build can be good for very beginner like me?
I have been told that it would cost a lot for the golemancer so that I was wondering if I should start with another build and get back to this build once I save some currency.
Any advice for this?
Thank you in advance

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Hy0410064 escreveu:

Hi

Thank you for your very detailed information.
I am very new to POE, started a week ago as a necromancer summoning all of minions except golems.
Do you think this build can be good for very beginner like me?
I have been told that it would cost a lot for the golemancer so that I was wondering if I should start with another build and get back to this build once I save some currency.
Any advice for this?
Thank you in advance

Hello and welcome to Poe :)

This build is basically aimed to teach whole Summoner / Golemancer package for new players while you level and try the skills in action. I have everything explained in the guide, but it can take some time to read thoroughly as it's quite long. Once you reach higher levels, you will have enough knowledge to start tweaking the build for your own liking.

Build starts as basic Necromancer (Specters + Zombies), which is very old build type and has lot of cheap unique items to support leveling. You can reach and farm t13+ maps for less than half exalt as damage scales with Specters monster level rather than gear or gem level. Once you have enough currency, you can buy more expensive Golem jewels and transition to Golem / Specter hybrid, or just plain Golems if you chose to. leveling section is wrote to get players to high tier maps for as cheap as possible while keeping up good damage and safe EHP (HP + ES).

Some players start with faster builds and grind currency to get Golems jewels first. I myself like to start as Necromancer as it suits my play-style / speed, and it feels less strange to switch from minions to other minions than for example from Arc totems to minions.

You can always post in thread if you get questions as it's pretty enjoyable to teach new players tricks of Poe. There is also my Golemancer guild that you can join. Golemancer players help each other there and it's a channel to chat about Golems / etc.

Poking my head back in after a few leagues. Did you ever reach a consensus on The Primordial Chain? I remember when it was first introduced you weren't sure if it was better than just using Spectres until you can do a full swap to Golems.

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Alamandaros escreveu:

Poking my head back in after a few leagues. Did you ever reach a consensus on The Primordial Chain? I remember when it was first introduced you weren't sure if it was better than just using Spectres until you can do a full swap to Golems.

Hello :)

I tested in and played with it around in PoB and came to conclusion that it's more beneficial to run Golems + Specters :

Primordial Chain

+ More Golems mean more shooting minions
+ This means faster clear speed

- Golems deal less damage, so total DPS boost to all Golems is about 20-30%
- Golems will be weaker (can die in boss fights and reflect maps)
- No chaos resistance from amulet
- No extra Energy Shield from amulet
- Golems start to use weaker spells near boss, TVs are much more effective near boss as they only have one spell
- Cant use Animate Guardian for damage and defense boosts

Chain is much better with Ice Golems, when Golems really need the movement speed and wont start using weaker attacks when near boss. I would still recommend using Presence of Chayula and Tukohama Vanguards.

Chain was ridiculously expensive last league from early to mid league. I you can get one, it's ok to use it but I would spend the currency on good pseudo 6-link helmet to Specters and other gear.