[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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ViikinG_ escreveu:

Hi, i'm looking foward to try this build (saving some currency as wanderfinder) but i'm planning choose elementalist over necro, if i do that i can swap the Victario's Charity ? if yes for what ?

Hi :)

Elementalist is good option also. It opens endgame bosses faster than necromancer, but leveling will be quite much harder as defenses are lower. You can't use Soul Weaver to get tanky Specters for mid-high maps, so it helps if you have Anima Stone and can summon up 4 Golems.

On my opinion "Victario's Charity" is the best offhand item for all minion builds. It makes clearing very fast as Minions seem to behave better under frenzy charges and damage is almost similar to +1 Golems from other Clayshaper. I recommend testing it at least as its very cheap item and Necromantic Aegis is on the way to jewels.

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Nice build, enjoying it so fare! :)

but was wondering, whats the best Pantheon options to choose?

Thanks for support ^^

On my opinion best Pantheons usually are :

- Soul of the Brine King (Almost stun immunity)
- Soul of Ryslatha (Flask charges for utility life flasks)

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Thanks for the quick answer. Following on, I'm thinking about adding Enfeeble to the Blasphemy (and leaving out Discipline), reasoning that losing a nerfed Discipline will cost ES, but the Enfeeble (with a gigantic AOE) will more than compensate for that.

And following on from that: Taking Hexmaster (the curse cluster near CI) will add another 10% effectiveness to both and 40% AOE to the curses.

And maybe worth adding to the leveling Guide: Raatling Condemned from Act 6 Prison make fantastic melee Spectres. Blenders with legs.

That is valid logic and Enfeeble will also protect minions too. However bosses have resistance to curse effectiveness and I think bosses will hit way harder than what the Enfeeble will give protection at cost of Enfeeble. However if you are not using Infernal Mantle, you can maybe squeeze Discipline in on some links for second curse?

Thanks for the tip! Definitely going to test the specters :)

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Well I managed to farm 2 in 2-3 days on a 4.5k hp crap geared piscator's+5L wanderfinder but I went very hard for it.

i opted for elementalist + CI 4-1 instead of hybrid + necro

so far so good, got a temp 5l regalia, garbage chain belt and 40 es on both my temp boots and gloves but still 5.6k es w/ 420 regen per sec (zealots oath) @ level 80.

Harmony inc dmg is just too good not to abuse with additional golem types

experimented a lot w/ 4-1 charity vs 4-1-1... Charity seems significantly better for clearing and a little better for bosses, despite my preconceived notions about it. At least with 7 harmonies. With 10+ the story may change.

Regardless, even my lv 18 5 linked golems are sporting over 50k dps a piece at least between their 2 spells that are worth a damn (the wave and orbs) which means over 200k combined

hey :)

I ended in same conclusion that somehow Victario's Charity wins second Clayshaper or even high ES shield. Minions just work better with charges and the DPS is almost the same as with second Chayshaper.

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Quick question, sorry if it was asked before, I cannot find an option to search the thread.

I just started leveling this, am level 20 currently and using SRS I am constantly oom and cannot even re summon enough to get thru fights even though I spam mana flasks. How can I overcome this problem? Thanks.

You can use "Clarity" aura for additional mana, and in "settings -> input" you can bind "Use flask in slot 5" to mouse 4-5 button. Place mana flask in last flask slot and you can take a sip without reaching to keyboard ;)

Taking "Alira" bandit reward gives Elemental resistances and 5 mana regen per second. Its great boost early on, and can later be specced out.

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I don't know, guys, after first very nice impressions on this build I suddenly realise that as new player in PoE I will NEVER farm such amount of money to get all these items.
I mean, do you ever check prices on poe.trade?

1. Mantle +1 — 50 ex minimum and you need to find right colors.
Cheapest Skin of the Loayal is about 150c and I doubt I will survive with it.

2. Boots +1 — Starting from 3ex, finishing with 150ex and you need to find right colors.

These 2 are just impossible to buy for anyone, I just wonder how many exalted do you farm a day and how?

Without boosted Animated Guardian there is no sense even to try hi-end content, zombies are dying like flies.

3. Presence of Chayula — 5ex min


4. And I didn't mention Anima Stone + Might = 4-5 + 4 ex = 9ex

What "beginner" can afford it and after what amount of farming (with just 3 golems).

And I didn't mention "quality of life" things like 20 quality gems, flasks, harmonies.
8 harmonies * 30c = 240 fucking chaoses.

Even Rumi's Concoction with decent spell block chance costs around 50c.

You guys have printing duping machine or what? I think I'll swith to anything more viable.

Hi!

The +1 level on most items are bonus, not necessity. +1 Rainbowstride can be bought later in league for cheap as players keep corrupting more of them. Players are farming t16 Guardians with normal 5 link Infernal Mantle already. You can buy rare amulet and not lose huge amount of EHP. Most powerful items that I'm linking as end game gear should be showing potential, not requirement.

Take league easy, map safe tiers and update gear slowly when you get enough currency for next update. Later in league all prices for non "Anima Stone" items will drop considerably ;)

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Hi

Have another question for me it is difficult to grasp.

Razing Spectre:

Use "Desecrate" skill manually there to spawn corpse pile with "Flame Sentinel" corpse on it. You can check corpses if you have "Raise Specter" skill in skill tree by pressing "A" button and hovering mouse over corpses.

- Part Epilogue, Oriath -> "The Templar Laboratory" (Level 68)

I understand this part I can do this as above.

Using manual "Desecrate" skill in the above I see 4 possibility's on the ground hovering mouse over dead corpses. (if you could call it that way)

I see the following corpses: (Could be any combination1) See below.

1) Assault Ribbons.
2) Galvanic .......'s Lightning.
3) Flame Sentential
4) Flame Sentential

If I hover over "Flame Sentential" and press "Raise Spectre. I get all 4 of the above. The corps I want to pick up is red outlined.

Sorry about the nuisance questions I post. I tried google YouTube and post's. No answer.

Is this a group thing or individual pick up with "Raise Spectre"

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You have to remove spell echo then it will do each one individually. Then just put it back when you have them all.

Thanks for the help :)

Spell echo makes you cast "Raise Specter" twice, so it raises selected minions and nearest one after that. Remove Spell echo from links when using "Raise Specter"

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This build is a TON of fun, arguably the best build I have too.
The initial investment to get it rolling is NOT beginner-friendly, in my opinion.
The build is very strong and can do T11 maps with ease, depending on the mods. Bleed is still a big issue as (generally) our lifepool depletes fast, because it's fairly low.
I'm sitting at 8.3k eHP with 6.5K ES and 1.8k Life.

I'm running Elementalist since I was already overcapped on resists and I figured the extra Golem and no ele reflect for them was a bigger boost.

Hey!

Build was written from bottom -> top for this league. Specters will carry so far into maps that its clear at that point how build works and if wanting to invest more. No need for "Anima Stone" to test the build :)

Your EHP looks good and taking Elementalist should allow you to run endgame maps without huge investments in your own survival if farming bosses while dead is ok.

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I Just can say than my 92 lvl elementalist without any animated guard and offerings do all content. has 8.5K ehp. And no reason to buy +1 mantle. Easy doing shaper + uber atziri and also everything) So u still need exalts to buy 21 lvl golems and 4 empower. gems are preaty expensive.
Average cost is about 40ex+-5ex. But not 150ex)
And i sure its hard to start this build in league)

hi!

Yep, gems are very expensive to buy. After that upgrades can be done little by little. Some build followers had all needed gear on day 3 while farming shaper. Most players will have to play with Specters for pretty long time but its very safe and fast to farm like that. Most players will get enough currency for Anima Stone surprisingly fast as game is RNG and lucky drops are happening all the time :)

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The +1 level on most items are bonus, not necessity. +1 Rainbowstride can be bought later in league for cheap as players keep corrupting more of them. Players are farming t16 Guardians with normal 5 link Infernal Mantle already. You can buy rare amulet and not lose huge amount of EHP. Most powerful items that I'm linking as end game gear should be showing potential, not requirement.

Take league easy, map safe tiers and update gear slowly when you get enough currency for next update. Later in league all prices for non "Anima Stone" items will drop considerably ;)

Guys, i'm playing Standard, no idea why you always talk about league.
So I guess prices here are more or less stable. And they are awful.

Can this build do Hall of Grandmasters?

I see people talking about Spectres, but this build doesn't use Spectres, does it?

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zzmastermindzz escreveu:

Can this build do Hall of Grandmasters?

Yes, i cleared it yesterday with :stronk:

in previous builds ive seen like 5 harmonys used with a might and a anima stone does that have any merit over using two rare jewels? recently swapped to the golems now and i couldnt really tell a diffrence betwen using 5 harmonys or 3

Considering how long you'll apparently be relying on spectres referring to it as a golem build seems a bit misleading

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mika2salo escreveu:

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Thanks for the quick answer. Following on, I'm thinking about adding Enfeeble to the Blasphemy (and leaving out Discipline), reasoning that losing a nerfed Discipline will cost ES, but the Enfeeble (with a gigantic AOE) will more than compensate for that.

And following on from that: Taking Hexmaster (the curse cluster near CI) will add another 10% effectiveness to both and 40% AOE to the curses.

And maybe worth adding to the leveling Guide: Raatling Condemned from Act 6 Prison make fantastic melee Spectres. Blenders with legs.

That is valid logic and Enfeeble will also protect minions too. However bosses have resistance to curse effectiveness and I think bosses will hit way harder than what the Enfeeble will give protection at cost of Enfeeble. However if you are not using Infernal Mantle, you can maybe squeeze Discipline in on some links for second curse?

Thanks for the tip! Definitely going to test the specters :)

Still leveling so no money for 5L/6L Infernal Mantle, and with a few mana reduction nodes, I could also add Discipline, leaving no mana.
Need to experiment on how to trigger EE now: maybe CWDT/Ice Nova/Inc AOE?

I have also taken the Skittering Runes curse cluster (just above Scion life wheel) for another 20% curse effectiveness. Things are definitely slowing down now.

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hwat escreveu:

I don't know, guys, after first very nice impressions on this build I suddenly realise that as new player in PoE I will NEVER farm such amount of money to get all these items.
I mean, do you ever check prices on poe.trade?

1. Mantle +1 — 50 ex minimum and you need to find right colors.
Cheapest Skin of the Loayal is about 150c and I doubt I will survive with it.

2. Boots +1 — Starting from 3ex, finishing with 150ex and you need to find right colors.

These 2 are just impossible to buy for anyone, I just wonder how many exalted do you farm a day and how?

Without boosted Animated Guardian there is no sense even to try hi-end content, zombies are dying like flies.

3. Presence of Chayula — 5ex min


4. And I didn't mention Anima Stone + Might = 4-5 + 4 ex = 9ex

What "beginner" can afford it and after what amount of farming (with just 3 golems).

And I didn't mention "quality of life" things like 20 quality gems, flasks, harmonies.
8 harmonies * 30c = 240 fucking chaoses.

Even Rumi's Concoction with decent spell block chance costs around 50c.

You guys have printing duping machine or what? I think I'll swith to anything more viable.

The build itself is suitable for beginners: that is, it will allow you to sail right through the content to red maps on a very very low budget (less than an ex).

Once you hit high red maps/Guardians, yes you will need better gear. But you won't need all of the above immediately.

The gear listed above is the absolute maximum gear (well: maybe I would include a +1 curse corrupted Presence of Chayula). Likely you will have to settle for lesser gear for a substantial time:
1) A non-corrupted 6L Fire Mantle or even a 5L
2) The boots will come down in price, use an uncorrupted one for a long time
3) Presence of Chayula is nice, but an Eye of Chayula and some chaos res on your gear will work as well
4) Anima+Might+harmonies: yes you will need these eventually. 9-11ex is not that hard to farm.
5) 20 quality gems are cheap, if you buy them as Q16 or so, add prisms and level them yourself
6) Rumi's is another ex.
7) Empower level 4s are also expensive.

We are in the first week of the league. So yes, money is scarce and gear is expensive.

Prices for some gear are likely to drop as more and more stuff is found, people start on their 2nd / 3rd build etc.

And once you get into red maps, farming goes *way* faster than in all other content.

Just be glad you are not in standard: there the maximum would include legacy gear and mirrored gear as well, and you would be looking at 1000+ ex :)

Can someone expalain to me why are we using specters and is there any life based tree?