[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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buks escreveu:

so is a double dyadus, bor, icetomb, rainbowstrides, rare gloves with 100+ resist Animate Guardian gonna die to stuff like normal atziri or doing some t10 maps?

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grimjack68 escreveu:

If you want to switch spectres, the best method is to open a shaper set - or borrow a portal - cast desecrate and raise until you get the combo you want. You can do this in a T16 map as well, however, your spectres will be one level lower than they could be.

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buks escreveu:

so is a double dyadus, bor, icetomb, rainbowstrides, rare gloves with 100+ resist Animate Guardian gonna die to stuff like normal atziri or doing some t10 maps?

edit: also, I got my spectres from Shaper's Realm today, been using 3 TVs, 1 WM for normal atziri runs. If I wanna switch to 4 WMs, how could I do that? Do I need to open one of my t16 maps?

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Imurgod escreveu:

just wanna make sure I got it right, for 2TV2W mapping, if my wickers stick together most of time their damage are not stackable basically I am getting same damage as 1 wicker right?

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lostcoaster escreveu:

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buks escreveu:

so is a double dyadus, bor, icetomb, rainbowstrides, rare gloves with 100+ resist Animate Guardian gonna die to stuff like normal atziri or doing some t10 maps?

edit: also, I got my spectres from Shaper's Realm today, been using 3 TVs, 1 WM for normal atziri runs. If I wanna switch to 4 WMs, how could I do that? Do I need to open one of my t16 maps?

From my experience, no.

Here is my AG setup: dual dyadus, voll's vision, icetomb, victario's flight, <any random unique gloves I pull from stash>. Gem lv 19, in shield slot, link minion resist - fortify. No minion life jewel but I get all minion life I can get in tree.

I use AG exclusively on T16 and shaper (T15 and below with SGs so no AG). AG never died or even drop below 50% hp to T16 trashes. (Note: I don't roll maps safely, the only thing I look in a map is pack size and IIQ, I don't care mods.) But it indeed died once to the corpse detonating beyond boss, so did myself there. Most dangerous scenario is 2x harbingers in the same place, where I will notice AG losing life and healing back.

For guardians themselves:
Mino can kill it, but not in one shot. It takes around 3-5 slams to kill AG, you will have plenty of time to decide unsummon or not. 80% of minos will die before they can slam twice so that a lesser problem.
Chimera can't kill it.
Hydra might be able to kill it. I am not quite certain what hits my AG but it loses life significantly. However, it did not actually die.
Phoenix might be the most dangerous, discharge + whirlwind attack is deadly combo to my AG. I unsummon AG if discharge hits it.

For shapers:
Yes, it dies to shaper. Zana phase/beams can be quite dangerous. I have to unsummon it often. I think lv 21 gem and a minion life link will help here.