[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

Probably nerf coming in the next patch... GGG always nerfed nice builds... fk logic.

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JustMane escreveu:

Probably nerf coming in the next patch... GGG always nerfed nice builds... fk logic.

they could just nerf the spectres damage, so it would require a bigger investment to farm the endgame; but since it's GGG, I fear they will almost destroy the build (which is even slower for mapping when compared with other builds)

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Giammafix escreveu:

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JustMane escreveu:

Probably nerf coming in the next patch... GGG always nerfed nice builds... fk logic.

they could just nerf the spectres damage, so it would require a bigger investment to farm the endgame; but since it's GGG, I fear they will almost destroy the build (which is even slower for mapping when compared with other builds)

Why nerf dmg? Defense is OP in this build no dmg. But better for me is nerf dmg than deff.
Only this build have amazing deff. There is a loot of builds have better dmg than this.

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JustMane escreveu:

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Giammafix escreveu:

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JustMane escreveu:

Probably nerf coming in the next patch... GGG always nerfed nice builds... fk logic.

they could just nerf the spectres damage, so it would require a bigger investment to farm the endgame; but since it's GGG, I fear they will almost destroy the build (which is even slower for mapping when compared with other builds)

Why nerf dmg? Defense is OP in this build no dmg. But better for me is nerf dmg than deff.
Only this build have amazing deff. There is a loot of builds have better dmg than this.

just because for the reason you said, I prefer to be more tanky in most endgame content, so if they nerf damage is fine for me

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grimjack68 escreveu:

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Imurgod escreveu:

how important is chaos resis in this build for end game T15+, I am @ -13% atm, sometimes my hp falling like stone, a few times got 1 shoted. maybe due to my chaos resis? If chaos resis is at high priority I can sacrifice a gem slot plus some hp/mp lost to gain around 60+%. shall I go for it or its an over rated stat. whats diff for an incoming chaos damage of 5k to -10% and 70% resis respectively?

Not very important. Very few things do Chaos damage to start with, and those that do, a fair number of them are ground effects that you can simply move out of. Did you keep track of what was doing the damage when you ran into this problem? There is a very good chance it's just normal DOT of some variety.

I found that when topped all 4 resis I have a much much relax/safer game play experience, much less "oh shit!" "WTF..." moments. right now I can just blindly charge into any pack/boss pop flasks and done with them in seconds without ever lost my hp more than 1/3. this build's selling point is the ability to tweak your defense beyond wildest dreams of other witch/caster builds, imo, this is the go build for hard-core and ssf.

As for ppl worrying nerf bats, dont, there are many more builds that rivals if not surpass this build in dps/survivability plus they can do mapping in 1/5 of our usual time, if nerf bat is called they are the ones shall be taken it first. Anyway,maybe that's the way GGG wants this game to be played now, all players happy and then GGG will be happy as well.

Let's be realistic here. TV and Wicker Man do way too much damage for minimal effort. I'm going to enjoy it while I can but they will both be nerfed for sure.

I don't understand why we should say that TV and WM are "doing way more damage than investment", what's the standard here? Or we're saying that because they can kill shaper with a 5L? Lots of build can do that too and it's not like we are invincible against Shaper like those million dps builds.

Spectre builds are unique. It's not comparable to ranged attack or totem or melee builds in anyway. You need to consider the problem of raising Spectres, keeping them alive, handling their AI, running around to be alive since no leech... (Honestly, I'm playing a BLS vaal-pact-leech berserker and feel much more comfortable to jump into packs and facetank everything, VP leech is so OP)

And you cannot buff spectres dps any further, because few gears buff spectres and little aura work with TV and WM. It's not a kind of build where you can throw more currency to get GG gears to make it more OP like bow/wander or melee builds.

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I'm also quite surprised to see doomsayings here. If GGG nerfs anything, it's definitely going to be VP, not spectres.

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LaplaceNoMa escreveu:

I'm also quite surprised to see doomsayings here. If GGG nerfs anything, it's definitely going to be VP, not spectres.

because they only play 1 or 2 sucky builds then switched to this.

Seriously if they nerf spectres I can jump back to my blade flurry build and still wtfpawn every shits, and dont get me started on these op builds atm:
barrage and its stupid +2 helm
berzerker
dp
slayer/raider/pathfinder
vp
RF
kenectic blast
ele conversion
many more...

all of them can down shaper in seconds so why your fingers on spectres only? this is the way of game now, most builds have good dps and satisfying to play with, period, stop shitting urself if you just found out this build has decent dps.