[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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Enucleide escreveu:

I knew it wouldn't be very fast but I'm surprised how bad the clear is, even with brightbeak. I understand why people use golems. What can I do to improve it without losing too much dps?

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Imurgod escreveu:

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Avu escreveu:

Use brightbeak, I leveled with advancing fortress, switched to brightbeak, tried scourge briefly (too slow and the wolves don't spawn on specters that hit) went back to brightbeak never going to look back. The speed is crazy.

Oh yeah I killed Shaper with 2 SG and 2 canibals no specter died just the golem. Damage was pretty good. My first successful one ever so you know I suck at it.

IMO if I can use brightbeak I would rather use Scourge instead. In this build our characters are the weakest link in DPS department, in other words, our damage/attack speed dont matter.

Now we compare benefits from them. With scourge you get around 100+% minion dps, which is huge considering we rely 100% on minion dps.

With Advancing fortress you get 15% block chance and 8% spell block(if you have 50% block apply to spell), getting max block is the core mechanic of this build. Not only that, it provides innate Fortify support which further reduce damage taken by whopping 20% with no gem slot cost.

With Brightbeak you get 2 resistances which we already easily capped, faster attack speed which doesn't matter much because we always need to wait for minions to clear.

Even after you reached max block and fortify slot I still found many other options better than Brightbeak, like Mon'tregul's Grasp which can give us great meat shield with ok dps.

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Imurgod escreveu:

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Avu escreveu:

Use brightbeak, I leveled with advancing fortress, switched to brightbeak, tried scourge briefly (too slow and the wolves don't spawn on specters that hit) went back to brightbeak never going to look back. The speed is crazy.

Oh yeah I killed Shaper with 2 SG and 2 canibals no specter died just the golem. Damage was pretty good. My first successful one ever so you know I suck at it.

IMO if I can use brightbeak I would rather use Scourge instead. In this build our characters are the weakest link in DPS department, in other words, our damage/attack speed dont matter.

Now we compare benefits from them. With scourge you get around 100+% minion dps, which is huge considering we rely 100% on minion dps.

With Advancing fortress you get 15% block chance and 8% spell block(if you have 50% block apply to spell), getting max block is the core mechanic of this build. Not only that, it provides innate Fortify support which further reduce damage taken by whopping 20% with no gem slot cost.

With Brightbeak you get 2 resistances which we already easily capped, faster attack speed which doesn't matter much because we always need to wait for minions to clear.

Even after you reached max block and fortify slot I still found many other options better than Brightbeak, like Mon'tregul's Grasp which can give us great meat shield with ok dps.

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BrainRadio escreveu:

Dear All,

Have been playing this build from this league. So far so good. It is a build that is both safe and with high DPS. Have done some Tier 15 maps and Phoenix, usually can finish the bosses in about 1 min give or take. For now, I just wonder what can I further improve my gears:

I also got some of these gears, but end up with using the upper ones.

I have 6700+ life, 2300+ mana, and ~800 ES (MoM). I personally feel the Scourge, though has higher damage, but is less safer than the Advancing Fortress, the latter gives me +15% block and +7.5% spell block. I am running 4TVs + 3FGs + Temporal Chain (max) + clarity (level 1, for minimum mana reservation of 34 mana and commander of darkness) + self cast Flammability, with which, I feel the damage is ok, and the speed is also satisfiable. I was using arctic armor, but later switched to Temporal Chian, because high level Temporal Chain seems safer. I haven't done Shaper yet, but that is my goal for this league, never done it before (which is a shame).

My main questions for my gears:
1. I feel my shied can have some upgrades. But those two I have (the spell block and mana recovery ones), do not benefit me much, since I have a +1 curse Lazhwar. Instead, I feel the >200 life Lioneye's Remorse gives is better. So, I am not quite sure what to do there.

2. Someone in this thread commended Belly of the Beast instead of Vis Mortis. Haven't try it yet, but will it feel better, I think for safety, yes, for clear speed, not sure?

3. With the current setup, for Tier 15 boss fights, the Spectre, FG and AG all survived, mostly full life. For Phoenix, all FGs died and the AG was down to less than half life, the spectres were generally ok. I am afraid, for Shaper, the FG and AG will die. So I wonder for Shaper, should I just use Skullhead and not FG? Beside, I can swap those FG jewels for life/minion life/minion damage/resist jewels.

In general, I am quite happy with this build.

Thanks,