[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything
" Any value in this for us? " Is CWDT still useful? If not, it frees us a gem slot. Improvement to movement skill? Another aura? " Buff for us. " Tiny buff: double corruptions are super valuable for us. " " Pretty nice. " I never played the WO version of this build, presumably the base duration and projectile firing speed are the nerfs for us? Seems to me that this still helps with clearspeed, so it's still better than Scorching Ray. " This does not sound like the end of the world either. " The biggest nerf? " " " " QoL for us, hopefully we're included in the final quote... Última edição por NoImagination#6952 em 5 de jun de 2019 02:59:11
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wow thats hurts really hard.
no es is a big hit so perhaps the scion version of the build will be really good again ? The reflect immun is also a nice thing. perhaps with legion reflect will be a thing ? will see. All in all its not fine. :-( I thinkt the biggest nerf will be the immortal call thing. With that mino was a cake, but it will hurt all classes and armour or eva will be buffed against es with it. Última edição por ichbinwerichbi#6654 em 5 de jun de 2019 03:56:18
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Managed to import the new tree in Path of Building via reddit info thread and compared the new tree on a previous end game character of mine (OccWItrayed lv 100 Occultist from Betrayal league -so no Synthethis league mods on any piece of gear) with the old tree:
Note: It seems that we cannot use anymore Might of the Meek jewel in the slot above Witch since it disable Light Eater notable passive :( so i replaced in new tree with a decent rare (cold dmg/spell dmg/intelligence) and updated the difference in ES and DPS values There are some changes regarding ES as following: -overall loss of ES - 2300 (from 18.407 down to 16.088) this kinda hurts :) -in Ascendancy instead of Wicked Ward which no longer exists i took Profane Bloom notable - so this is a nice DPS boost for clearing. -average Shaper hit for single target remains almost the same (old 44.837 vs. new 44.454, no Frenzy Charges taken in consideration for both variants due to dropping Blood Rage) some tree changes: - Arcane Focus node lost 2% increased maximum energy shield. - Light Eater cluster (3 nodes) was moved left of Cruel Preparation cluster in Witch area so to get it you need 1 more skill point(+ 10 intelligence) compared to old tree - all Ascendancy minor nodes lost 2% increased maximum energy shield - Vile Bastion Ascendancy notable has now 10% max energy shield regen per second down from 30%. We can go even further and instead of Vile Bastion nerfed notable we can take Malediction notable (which didn't get nerfed) and to resolve Stun issues we can use fully updated Soul of the Brine King Pantheon (as we used before in Scion version) So overall in my opinion build is still viable in Occultist pure cold version using WO as support for clearing, we get less ES and less ES recovery rate (no more Soul of Arakaali/Blood Rage and no more IC) but we get higher DPS thanks to Profane Bloom and some damage mitigation/DPS buff eventually if we take Malediction(2 curses, Malediction effect on cursed targets) notables. Made a simulation on the same char (OccWItrayed lv 100) but now as Ascendant (Elementalist/Inquisitor): -overall loss of ES - 2000 (from 18.407 down to 16.478) better than pure Occultist variant -average Shaper hit for single target is higher for this variant (old tree Occultist 44.837 vs. new tree Elementalist/Inquisitor 52.717, no Frenzy Charges taken in consideration for both variants due to dropping Blood Rage) - we are no longer immune to stun so Soul of the Brine King pantheon is a must - no longer fully immune to Freeze and Chill but because of Inquisitor Ascendancy we are immune to all ailments as long as we are on Consecrated Ground - almost 100% uptime ? i am not sure about up time of Consecrated Ground - 100% immune to reflect due to Elementalist Ascendancy - we have 2 golems (chaos and flame) - Intelligence higher than pure Occultist variant So this version seems a bit better than pure Occultist at this moment! Also made a simulation on the same char (OccWItrayed lv 100) but now as Ascendant(Inquisitor/Occultist): - overall loss of ES - 2000 (from 18.407 down to 16.478) better than pure Occultist variant same as Elementalist/Inquisitor -average Shaper hit for single target is also higher for this variant (old tree Occultist 44.837 vs. new tree Occultist/Inquisitor 48.393, no Frenzy Charges taken in consideration for both variants due to dropping Blood Rage) - 100% immune to stun due to Occultist Ascendancy - no longer fully immune to Freeze and Chill but because of Inquisitor Ascendancy we are immune to all ailments as long as we are on Consecrated Ground - almost 100% uptime ? i am not sure about up time of Consecrated Ground - we can have 2 curses (Enffeble/Frostbite , Enfeeble/Temp Chains) - Intelligence higher than pure Occultist variant - some additional permanent Energy shield regen (1.5%) from Occultist Ascendancy This variant also seems a bit better than pure Occultist version! Conclusion : All 3 variants (100% Cold damage) are OK in my opinion is only a personal option if you choose one or another with pure Occultist being it seems the weakest of all 3 but not by a big margin. Última edição por lilianmarius#0775 em 5 de jun de 2019 08:50:54
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don't the changes kill this version of the build at least as league starter? straight up nerf to all ES and no longer free es from ascendancy to compensate for no shield. also, much harder es crafting? besides, the ascendancy doesn't give that much after the nerfs.. looking at trickster/Scion perhaps even inquisitor?
have finally gotten used to the lab... I dont hate it anymore.:)
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" This looks better from your summary, particularly if we're using the flask from a couple of pages back that lets us use life flasks for ES, as it creates consecrated ground. It's 10% more damage and ~12% less ES. Of course, ES loss is bigger than that due to no dense fossils, but ~14k ES or whatever is more than enough. Edit: POB trees are up, could you add what you've done please? Última edição por NoImagination#6952 em 5 de jun de 2019 08:05:04
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There's a new 3 point Intelligence Noteable: Utmost Intellect. 70 Int and 8% Increased int.
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" Ah, good spot. I'm not convinced we'll be worse off than in Incursion, and infact probably better than then. I'd have a go at a tree, but I'm too unfamiliar with some of the changes in the past six months, e.g. Vaal Pact stuff. |
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https://clips.twitch.tv/DependableAmazonianSlothOptimizePrime
For Winter Orb discussion. Doesn't seem to be harmed much, so our main problem is reduced ES, and some ascendancy nerfs. With 7% int from the tree, the new flask, and presumably the new jewels, seems likely we're better off than in incursion league. Última edição por NoImagination#6952 em 5 de jun de 2019 15:04:00
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I have no idea what I'm doing with this version, including the ascendancy class and vaal pact, but as no-one else is around to post a suggested tree yet, here's my 10-minute-first-attempt for elementalist/inquisitor in PoB:
http://poeurl.com/coZB Última edição por NoImagination#6952 em 5 de jun de 2019 15:33:30
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" Not sure how to use that (link doesn't do anything useful.) Include a pastebin link instead? |
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