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chris6358 escreveu:
Ahh... Is there a link for 3.8 skill tree or the whole guide? I'm building her on standard
https://pastebin.com/GBbmmrHu 3.8 pastebin :D
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Postado porQlidascope#2925em 12 de dez. de 2019 03:43:08
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What about the new armor on monsters ? Won t physical based minions take a big damage hit as they dont get any armor pen ?
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Postado porEddy_Kamakura#6798em 12 de dez. de 2019 05:17:59
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Qlidascope escreveu:
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chris6358 escreveu:
Ahh... Is there a link for 3.8 skill tree or the whole guide? I'm building her on standard
https://pastebin.com/GBbmmrHu 3.8 pastebin :D
Qlida, any chance you'll add HC section to the build? Cause all I know right now is - Life nodes>dmg nodes )
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Postado porRalf_Fiennes26#2076em 12 de dez. de 2019 05:37:32
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lobski escreveu:
I dont see that 30 mln shaper dps :f from pob i See 1 zombie do ~350k shaper dps x 18 zombie its equals ~6mln. I know that zombie got nerfed but i dont See this numbers :(. It should be more than enough but i dont know that i need to change in pob.
you're probably looking at budget gear ^^ Look at this, it might have been saved while being on budget gear tab.
https://pastebin.com/arZ7UUzX
1201*1,72*18*0.75
Dps times multistrike multiplier, times number of zombies times base damage dps after nerf.
Última edição por Qlidascope#2925 em 12 de dez. de 2019 06:37:11
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Postado porQlidascope#2925em 12 de dez. de 2019 06:12:30
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Eddy_Kamakura escreveu:
What about the new armor on monsters ? Won t physical based minions take a big damage hit as they dont get any armor pen ?
They might in the end, however every build seems to have gotten this nerf, and if its super bad we'll convert to chaos again ^^
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Postado porQlidascope#2925em 12 de dez. de 2019 06:38:39
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chris6358 escreveu:
Ahh... Is there a link for 3.8 skill tree or the whole guide? I'm building her on standard
https://pastebin.com/GBbmmrHu 3.8 pastebin :D
Thanks a bunch!!
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Postado porchris6358#6215em 12 de dez. de 2019 07:29:34
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Qlidascope escreveu:
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lobski escreveu:
I dont see that 30 mln shaper dps :f from pob i See 1 zombie do ~350k shaper dps x 18 zombie its equals ~6mln. I know that zombie got nerfed but i dont See this numbers :(. It should be more than enough but i dont know that i need to change in pob.
you're probably looking at budget gear ^^ Look at this, it might have been saved while being on budget gear tab.
https://pastebin.com/arZ7UUzX
1201*1,72*18*0.75
Dps times multistrike multiplier, times number of zombies times base damage dps after nerf.
Can you elaborate on that math equation, how are you getting 72% more multiplier from Multistrike, I get close to that number using 1201*1.22*1.44, but would lost to get the actual reason for the 72% more multiplier :D These are of course only relevant if the zombies are connecting with their second AND third hits (they most likely are on a boss fight however so all good)
I've tried finding multistrike math equations for the past month or so, haven't been able to come up with anything.
Edit: Also, what would the multistrike multiplier from the new Awakened Multistrike be? Hmm :P seems VERY JUICY
Kindest Regards.
Última edição por Yunojelly#6818 em 12 de dez. de 2019 08:04:41
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Postado porYunojelly#6818em 12 de dez. de 2019 08:03:58
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Yunojelly escreveu:
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Qlidascope escreveu:
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lobski escreveu:
I dont see that 30 mln shaper dps :f from pob i See 1 zombie do ~350k shaper dps x 18 zombie its equals ~6mln. I know that zombie got nerfed but i dont See this numbers :(. It should be more than enough but i dont know that i need to change in pob.
you're probably looking at budget gear ^^ Look at this, it might have been saved while being on budget gear tab.
https://pastebin.com/arZ7UUzX
1201*1,72*18*0.75
Dps times multistrike multiplier, times number of zombies times base damage dps after nerf.
Can you elaborate on that math equation, how are you getting 72% more multiplier from Multistrike, I get close to that number using 1201*1.22*1.44, but would lost to get the actual reason for the 72% more multiplier :D These are of course only relevant if the zombies are connecting with their second AND third hits (they most likely are on a boss fight however so all good)
I've tried finding multistrike math equations for the past month or so, haven't been able to come up with anything.
Edit: Also, what would the multistrike multiplier from the new Awakened Multistrike be? Hmm :P seems VERY JUICY
Kindest Regards.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/520013191?filter=archives&sort=time
idk if the timestamp got covers, at around 1hr 25 mins it'll start the Explanation or so. Goes a little while with PoB n Stuff. Including gem discussion. Anyway if you have the time in this VoD he explains his thoughts and how the dmg is calculated.
Plot Twist, thats obviously under optimal conditions. Effective DPS with suboptimal gear will be between 2million to ~15 million Shaper DPS which will be enough to delete the atlas.
Zombois got nerfed, but we're far from dead.
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Postado poreviL_Bison#4015em 12 de dez. de 2019 08:11:07
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ignore this, double post.
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Postado poreviL_Bison#4015em 12 de dez. de 2019 08:11:08
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jlh165 escreveu:
I’m looking at this in body armour and moving Cyclone to a 4L
Chaos Golem
- Feeding Frenzy
- Awakened Curse on Hit
- Vulnerability
- Punishment
- Maim
Minions still can't curse on hit so what's triggering the curses?
Unless I'm missing something?
Ah yes, you’re right. That leaves the other method. In any case I’m finding a difficult time finding it worthwhile to drop 4 skills over the current setup. I’ll leave it in the back of my mind for a 4.0 option.
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Eddy_Kamakura escreveu:
What about the new armor on monsters ? Won t physical based minions take a big damage hit as they dont get any armor pen ?
Thats partly why I think I’m picking up Awakened Brutality if my budget can afford it. You get 10% “armour pen.” Note: It’s not true penetration because the value cannot drop below 0. Converting to chaos isn’t necessarily a good solution, because monster chaos resistance got buffed too...though I suppose when reaching the full -90 chaos res it isn’t very effective.
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Yunojelly escreveu:
Can you elaborate on that math equation, how are you getting 72% more multiplier from Multistrike, I get close to that number using 1201*1.22*1.44, but would lost to get the actual reason for the 72% more multiplier :D These are of course only relevant if the zombies are connecting with their second AND third hits (they most likely are on a boss fight however so all good)
I've tried finding multistrike math equations for the past month or so, haven't been able to come up with anything.
Edit: Also, what would the multistrike multiplier from the new Awakened Multistrike be? Hmm :P seems VERY JUICY
Kindest Regards.
When looking at the full multiplier, {more IAS * average more damage * less damage}, so it’s not 72% more for the gem (for a L24 1.46 * 1.22 * .92 = ~64% more damage). However, PoB will already calculate the attack speed and less damage, so you end up with 22% more damage than PoB shows. The Awakened multiplier brings this up to 30% more, and with an additional repeat, slam will have a significantly higher uptime.
Última edição por Aldonés#1294 em 12 de dez. de 2019 08:44:19
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Postado porAldonés#1294em 12 de dez. de 2019 08:28:51
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