[3.10] Gryph's Volatile Dead Necromancer || Fun, Medium Budget, Tanky, Millions of DPS

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Feanturo escreveu:

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DO NOT CRAFT ON A WARSTAFF BASE

God damit, you never stop learning in this game.
Well now im poor because i bought the 6-link shaper base, but its a serpentine warstaff, back to the drawing board :-)
At least it pushes my league goal in a farther distance.


I think i´ll just keep it and try to hit some good fossil craft.
Double damage is still possible on warstaff´s ?

Ah that sucks but I know how you feel as I did the same thing earlier this league. Seeing this spurred me to make a note in the guide in the gear->weapon section.

Double damage is an attack mod, so yes still possible. I might just try to sell it as is instead of sinking more into it though

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Gryphenprey escreveu:

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Feanturo escreveu:

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DO NOT CRAFT ON A WARSTAFF BASE

God damit, you never stop learning in this game.
Well now im poor because i bought the 6-link shaper base, but its a serpentine warstaff, back to the drawing board :-)
At least it pushes my league goal in a farther distance.


I think i´ll just keep it and try to hit some good fossil craft.
Double damage is still possible on warstaff´s ?

Ah that sucks but I know how you feel as I did the same thing earlier this league. Seeing this spurred me to make a note in the guide in the gear->weapon section.

Double damage is an attack mod, so yes still possible. I might just try to sell it as is instead of sinking more into it though

And go for the 18% block ones and not the crit ones i assume then.

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Feanturo escreveu:

And go for the 18% block ones and not the crit ones i assume then.

I prefer the block ones, yes. We lack phys mitigation so block ends up being an important layer of defense for us

Has anyone considered an animate guardian with Kingmaker? Not sure if Culling Strike would apply to VD, but fortify and the extra crit multiplier are pretty juicy.

Since we are casting spirit offering very frequently, he should be able to survive non-chaos damage just fine, even with none of the juicy support gems, such as life or resist (elemental army debuf can be nice, but he probably will not attack fast enough). Add a Solaris Lorica or Shavronne's Wrappings and he could maybe even help deep into the mines.

Hey, which one is better your PoB or stupidity character ? Your character look nice and it seems better than your pob.

ty!
Corrupted helm with reserved mana is better then any enchanted scold's bridle?
Sry for my bad english

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Aresius911 escreveu:

Hey, which one is better your PoB or stupidity character ? Your character look nice and it seems better than your pob.

ty!
Corrupted helm with reserved mana is better then any enchanted scold's bridle?
Sry for my bad english

Corrupted helm is easier to obtain and is better than the mana reserve enchantments.

VD consumes +1 Corpse is going to be BiS but is so completely unnecessary that I can never justify the cost. We already delete everything in the game.

And as for which to follow...please follow the guide. If you have specific questions about what I'm doing on my character at any given time, feel free to ask. I am always testing new things and making small tweaks to further min-max my character and some of these are not reasonable for others trying this build.

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danrbr escreveu:

Has anyone considered an animate guardian with Knigmaker? Not sure if Culling Strike would apply to VD, but fortify and the extra crit multiplier are pretty juicy.

Since we are casting spirit offering very frequently, he should be able to survive non-chaos damage just fine, even with none of the juicy support gems, such as life or resist (elemental army debuf can be nice, but he probably will not attack fast enough). Add a Solaris Lorica or Shavronne's Wrappings and he could maybe even help deep into the mines.

I have actually considered an Animate guardian with Kingslayer for these very reasons. I did not consider using a Solaris Lorica though, that's some sweet tech.

Main Reason I haven't is just the Socket space required to use him with some links. I'd likely want Meat Shield linked to him and also to fit a Convocation into a CWDT setup somewhere. I can try testing a more typical "cheap" AG to see how he survives my T16 maps and Elder fights.

The culling does work, and the 50% Crit multiplier is also very nice.

One thing with Fortify is you need to make sure your self damage is high enough to proc CWDT through the mitigation.

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Gryphenprey escreveu:

I have actually considered an Animate guardian with Kingslayer for these very reasons. I did not consider using a Solaris Lorica though, that's some sweet tech.

Main Reason I haven't is just the Socket space required to use him with some links. I'd likely want Meat Shield linked to him and also to fit a Convocation into a CWDT setup somewhere. I can try testing a more typical "cheap" AG to see how he survives my T16 maps and Elder fights.

The culling does work, and the 50% Crit multiplier is also very nice.

One thing with Fortify is you need to make sure your self damage is high enough to proc CWDT through the mitigation.

Good points. Finding 3 slots is definitely a bit more challenging. It almost requires replacing flammability curse on hit with assassin's mark proc (or some other curse proc from vaaling gloves for instance), using the "CWDT - Wave of Conviction - Combustion" option. If the guardian is linked as well, he will also get combustion procs. Then you can add "Convocation - Animate guardian - Meat shield" to the chest.

Really good point about fortify. My current 7-linked 21 Volatile dead costs 158 mana, which with Fortify would deal me 158 * 4 *0.8 =~ 505 damage per cast, which is lower than the 528 required to proc. Maybe adding fevered mind back may be worth it.

If you try it, please let us know how it goes.

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danrbr escreveu:

Good points. Finding 3 slots is definitely a bit more challenging. It almost requires replacing flammability curse on hit with assassin's mark proc (or some other curse proc from vaaling gloves for instance), using the "CWDT - Wave of Conviction - Combustion" option. If the guardian is linked as well, he will also get combustion procs. Then you can add "Convocation - Animate guardian - Meat shield" to the chest.

Really good point about fortify. My current 7-linked 21 Volatile dead costs 158 mana, which with Fortify would deal me 158 * 4 *0.8 =~ 505 damage per cast, which is lower than the 528 required to proc. Maybe adding fevered mind back may be worth it.

If you try it, please let us know how it goes.

It's funny you mention the curse on hit setup. I have actually dropped those links in favor of


As for boosting mana cost, I have been wearing Kalisa's Grace for a while because the crit boost is so big. That said it means my gloves are not covering any resists so I have swapped to

So that I can use:


This was a decision I made after getting my hands on


With the new flask replacing my Diamond Flask I have 93.5% Crit chance with Voidbringer. Previously 100%. And it's fine. The damage is absurd and with Rumi's I have 75/52 block.

Something worth noting with the AG. I ran a Hydra with Solaris Lorica, Dying Breath, Victario's Flight, and a Geofri's Crest Helm (for some res) and he survived no problem on no links. That said I had to drop Bone Offering (21/21 block for me) from my setup to make it work. As soon as I went back that setup he died. Lol.

There has been discussion before about adding AG and some utility specters (Proximity shield in particular looks juicy) but it's mostly an issue of socket space. For me I like spamming things like purifying flame and having the extra block chance from my Bone offering Setup.

But to make it work I'd have to:

Drop Purifying Flame and Bone Offering
Move Spirit Offering to Desecrate 4L CWDT and drop that CWDT link.

This would give me an open 3L for Animated Guardian (Flame Dash in 4th Link)
I'd still want a convocation in CWDT somewhere but I wouldn't know what to drop at that point.

Best bet I think would be to move Flame Dash to my helmet instead of enlighten and respecc into Sovereignty cluster and have the 4L be:

Animated Guardian - Meat Shield
CWDT - Convocation

And that'd probably be fine.

Hey here is the Pob of my current Ci version of the build
https://pastebin.com/0VHSRdyb
Items are still beeing worked on the the dmg can be improved on.

Oppsie