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brunowa escreveu:
Yeh nothing really game changing.
Thanks added to guide.
np.
I think you should update a lot of the "claims" on the first page and throughout the guide. Stuff like "easily 10k EHP, upwards to 25k EHP".
Also DPS per zombies is nowhere near 1 million DPS per zombie anymore.
Speed is also misleading. The way you portray the build is that we get all those things, when in fact we get none of them, unless you specifically aim for one of those "goals", at the cost of losing all other claims by the build.
It's ok to admit and update the build to reflect reality that DPS and defences were nerfed a lot, and none of the claims are true anymore.
You can say, "we are one of the fastest OR the tankiest OR the strongest Zombie-based builds", but certainly not all those things at once.
All the videos are outdated for at least one or more leagues, yet still are kept in the build guide and are doing nothing but mislead players interested in the build. It's time to remove 90% of the videos since they simply are not true anymore. The rest should be redone reflecting reality in this current state, rather than claiming things that were "somewhat true" half a year ago, before all the nerfs and game changes changed virtually everything in the build in one way or another.
You should understand that your propaganda-thread has harmed the build tremendously over the past few leagues, as well as any other minion build as collateral damage. Try to tone down the propaganda-machine as it has caused us enough damage already. You know it.
Good points, I'd really like these things updating. The big question is, what is the better build as of 3.11, this, or Kays specter summoner build.
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After setting up some options into the Configuration tab and spectre (there was none), i'm at ~361k DPS per zombie. Yes, the numbers you see in PoB are per zombie.
If you have the PoB Community version (Previously known as PoB Fork), it takes into account most things. Basic stuff like auras and skills are considered.
Some changes you can do:
- Empower lvl 4 (yours is lvl 3)
- I'm getting only 935 strength in your PoB. If it's right, then get more strength to reach 1000+
- You could benefit A LOT from adding 2-3 cluster jewels in your tree (Vicious Bite, Rotten Claws, etc, are good mods to get on those)
- Since the nerf of Spirit OFfering in 3.10, you can get a TON more damage by using Flesh Offering instead of Spirit Offerint AND dropping Minion Speed for Brutality. But, you might want to get the Ravenous Horde node on your skill tree (anoint it, and get Death Attunement with points)
- You have good resistances, dropping Purity of Elements for Pride is a great damage boost if you need it
You can get to ~700k per zombie with those changes. Take the one that fit your build and playstyle de most.
Thank you for the tips, i started this league with only about 3 weeks left. i do have over 1000 STR i wonder if some of my jewels aren't calculating correctly. 94 is the highest i've ever taken a character, where would you take points away for clusters? scion life area or is there a wheel i have that's not useful?
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Postado porClown_mulch#2054em 17 de jun de 2020 07:23:44
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IcedInferno007 escreveu:
Good points, I'd really like these things updating. The big question is, what is the better build as of 3.11, this, or Kays specter summoner build.
Big question right there
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Postado porMrWay#2655em 17 de jun de 2020 08:50:22
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We got hit by further nerfs:
Vicious Bite and Precise Master got nerved.
My damage went down from 1.108.162 to 840.323.
So the nerf via clusters is real.
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Postado porTheSylus#0960em 17 de jun de 2020 09:15:11
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TOP_Commander escreveu:
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brunowa escreveu:
Yeh nothing really game changing.
Thanks added to guide.
np.
I think you should update a lot of the "claims" on the first page and throughout the guide. Stuff like "easily 10k EHP, upwards to 25k EHP".
Also DPS per zombies is nowhere near 1 million DPS per zombie anymore.
Speed is also misleading. The way you portray the build is that we get all those things, when in fact we get none of them, unless you specifically aim for one of those "goals", at the cost of losing all other claims by the build.
It's ok to admit and update the build to reflect reality that DPS and defences were nerfed a lot, and none of the claims are true anymore.
You can say, "we are one of the fastest OR the tankiest OR the strongest Zombie-based builds", but certainly not all those things at once.
All the videos are outdated for at least one or more leagues, yet still are kept in the build guide and are doing nothing but mislead players interested in the build. It's time to remove 90% of the videos since they simply are not true anymore. The rest should be redone reflecting reality in this current state, rather than claiming things that were "somewhat true" half a year ago, before all the nerfs and game changes changed virtually everything in the build in one way or another.
You should understand that your propaganda-thread has harmed the build tremendously over the past few leagues, as well as any other minion build as collateral damage. Try to tone down the propaganda-machine as it has caused us enough damage already. You know it.
Summed up perfectly what i wanted to say about this build after playing it extensively,I would just choose another build from someone that does play the league and not standard all the time
The vast majority of the guide claims werent true in 3.10(They were in 3.9 when the build was made,but that was the reason they got nerfed after all)
Última edição por Archontis#1527 em 17 de jun de 2020 09:59:49
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Postado porArchontis#1527em 17 de jun de 2020 09:56:29
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Thanks for the build Brunowa :)
I have been playing this build in SSF in 3.8, 3.9 and 3.10.
In 3.8 the build was really OP, in 3.9 the nerf came and things was a bit harder, and at start of 3.10 it was bad for me, until I realised the power of Cluster Jewels (thanks Elorathiel and others).
Prolly 3.11 will be fine.
I suggest Brunowa to update the front page to reflect 3.11 and remove old none valid things (old stuff just confuse new players).
I also would like to see Brunowas own take on this build including Cluster Jewels.
/Onin
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@Onin: Do you think that Renewal stacking is the way to go?
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Postado porvox_popoli#9829em 17 de jun de 2020 13:09:25
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Can we expect a new pob before 3.11 goes live since the skill tree changed?
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Postado porTriflin#0437em 17 de jun de 2020 15:11:09
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Is the cluster stacking alternative still viable with the nerfs to hulking corpse, vicious bite, etc ?
No more massive zombies, just when I wanted to try this thing out :(
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Postado pordavebertz#5403em 17 de jun de 2020 15:42:13
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I have everything like I should have, still not even possible to get 4 spectres - I really don't understand - I have gem in Baron and the ascendancy, how do I get 4 spectres?
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Postado porMustafa24#7495em 17 de jun de 2020 15:56:18
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