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if i buy mask of the tribunal for my AG with implicit "minions deal x% increased damage", will that effect my minions or not?
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Sarclol escreveu:
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BopMajster escreveu:
my AG used
Garb of the Ephemeral
Kingmaker
Mask of the Tribunal
Victarios Flight
and those gloves, which gives 100 atributes..

I have grave intentions and also minion life gem. Yes, i was constantly cycloning. and yes, there were some ground effects... like blood... like bleed effects all around. metamorph didnt even died, i died before he died. but i fucked up, cause i went afk and then i go for new spectres and my portal to the map dissapered, so i didnt even kill it :(.
i should make screenshot of the boss :(. and there might be Stygian Revenants but dont remember exacly.


Mask of the Tribunal or Mask of the Stitched Demon? Stitched Demon would make him survive due to the ridiculous regen it grants in combination with Grave Intentions and Spirit Offering.

My guess is that the Abominations on the map contributed some affixes like "detonates corpses on death" or something similar, which applied to the metamorph. They do absurd damage, and if they all exploded at once, that's likely what happened. It's also possible, though unlikely since I don't see Nemesis on your mods, that you happened to get a few bad Physical Thorns rares from the metamorph.


mask of the tribunal.

I had almost 69k life on him and 3100 life regen. and i doubt that it was explison. I had the feeling that not all the minions died at once.. i was slacking and all of the sudden i notice, there arent so many minions anymore.. and when i watch on my life, i was dead and only 1 spectre and 2 zombies stays alive.
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BopMajster escreveu:
My AG just died in Bazaar map with this mods:


I cleared whole map without a problem like any other map, but at the end i spawned metamorph and he killed all my minions, 2 zombies and 1 spectre left when i died. Somehow i reflected physical damage, but i have no idea how.
Did my minions die because of map or is there any other reason? Is it possible to summon metamorph that reflects damage?


What killed you is your level 21 desecrate , corpse explosion from the aberrations, get rid of it and get a level 1/20.
You don’t need any more than that
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Arkhandar escreveu:
I already have a Enlightened 4, thanks for the setup !


If you like it and want to upgrade else where, don't be afraid to sell the EL4 if you need some extra exalt. Everything you can do with an EL4 you can do with an EL3 in this set up.

If you don't need the currency, then just keep the EL4.


With enlighten 4 u can also swap flesh and blood with Skitterbots and link Maim support to Carrion golem or cyclone and dread banner linked to generosity, this gives more dps overall
Última edição por Cyrom#2298 em 21 de fev de 2020 14:05:07
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D2Junkie escreveu:
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BopMajster escreveu:
My AG just died in Bazaar map with this mods:


I cleared whole map without a problem like any other map, but at the end i spawned metamorph and he killed all my minions, 2 zombies and 1 spectre left when i died. Somehow i reflected physical damage, but i have no idea how.
Did my minions die because of map or is there any other reason? Is it possible to summon metamorph that reflects damage?


What killed you is your level 21 desecrate , corpse explosion from the aberrations, get rid of it and get a level 1/20.
You don’t need any more than that

im not sure, i understand that mehanic. care to explain please?
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Sarclol escreveu:
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BreadyMcBread escreveu:
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IllusionMasterZ escreveu:
how can i craft a belt with #% increase attributes?


Elder heavy belt.

Hunter heavy belt gives less bad mods in the overall pool but the same good mods. Slightly more expensive, but since chaos spamming is the way you do that (quality it first), you save chaos in the long run.


I did an somewhat extensive breakdown on mod chances of elder vs hunter heavy belt a bit ago. See here:

Spoiler

For anyone crafting a belt I thought I'd share some of my data on odds to roll Attributes % on Hunter vs Elder belts:

Elder: 400/74500 ~0.5% - 186.25 suffix rolls
Hunter: 500/66250 ~0.75% - 132.5 suffix rolls

You do normally get a few suffix rolls, but the odds to calculate further change based on the first roll locking out other affix pools and I'm not getting into that math, so.... let's just assume you get on average 1.5-2 rolls per.

Elder: 139.69 w/ 1.5 rolls per items
Hunter: 99.38 w/ 1.5 rolls per items
40c difference
or
Elder: 93.125 w/ 2 rolls per items
Hunter: 66.25 w/ 2 rolls per items
27c difference

So while the elder belt is cheaper by at least 20-70c depending on the day, you are likely going to need a few times hitting the mod to get a useful belt. This means after 2 times of hitting the mod, you will have spent 52-80c more on chaos spamming to hit the attributes% mod, which is basically your difference in belt cost, and any further spamming for better belts (usually the case as 2 rolls of attributes isn't likely to be fruitful) or bad luck is mitigated.

Hunter's also has the same slightly higher weighting for max health % which is a decent mod to land.

So tl;dr, elder is only good if you get lucky early, otherwise, invest in a hunter belt and save money in the long run.
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Última edição por Mubbsy#5748 em 21 de fev de 2020 14:39:45
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BopMajster escreveu:
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D2Junkie escreveu:
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BopMajster escreveu:
My AG just died in Bazaar map with this mods:


I cleared whole map without a problem like any other map, but at the end i spawned metamorph and he killed all my minions, 2 zombies and 1 spectre left when i died. Somehow i reflected physical damage, but i have no idea how.
Did my minions die because of map or is there any other reason? Is it possible to summon metamorph that reflects damage?


What killed you is your level 21 desecrate , corpse explosion from the aberrations, get rid of it and get a level 1/20.
You don’t need any more than that

im not sure, i understand that mehanic. care to explain please?


You are raising high level corpses with your desecrate (higher level than the map itself) , these are used by the abominations to detonate , combined With I am assuming map A8 , equals insta gib for anything packed in that small radius of the metamorph spawn.
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BopMajster escreveu:
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D2Junkie escreveu:
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BopMajster escreveu:
My AG just died in Bazaar map with this mods:


I cleared whole map without a problem like any other map, but at the end i spawned metamorph and he killed all my minions, 2 zombies and 1 spectre left when i died. Somehow i reflected physical damage, but i have no idea how.
Did my minions die because of map or is there any other reason? Is it possible to summon metamorph that reflects damage?


What killed you is your level 21 desecrate , corpse explosion from the aberrations, get rid of it and get a level 1/20.
You don’t need any more than that

im not sure, i understand that mehanic. care to explain please?

What he means is that corpse explosion mechanics use the level/health of the corpse, and since your Desecrate is level 21, It's allowing level 100 corpses. This doesn't actually matter, though. Desecrate corpse level is capped by the map level.

Also, just to compare, my AG without Spirit Offering (ES -> Regen) has 15,253 Life regen per second. This is more than doubled with Spirit Offering active, and he regens over 50% of his max life over 1 second. With so much life, 3100 LPS isn't nearly enough regen to keep him alive through Detonate Dead since it does so much damage so quickly - if that is indeed what it was.
Última edição por Sarclol#3094 em 21 de fev de 2020 14:56:50
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Mubbsy escreveu:
I did an somewhat extensive breakdown on mod chances of elder vs hunter heavy belt a bit ago. See here:

Spoiler

For anyone crafting a belt I thought I'd share some of my data on odds to roll Attributes % on Hunter vs Elder belts:

Elder: 400/74500 ~0.5% - 186.25 suffix rolls
Hunter: 500/66250 ~0.75% - 132.5 suffix rolls

You do normally get a few suffix rolls, but the odds to calculate further change based on the first roll locking out other affix pools and I'm not getting into that math, so.... let's just assume you get on average 1.5-2 rolls per.

Elder: 139.69 w/ 1.5 rolls per items
Hunter: 99.38 w/ 1.5 rolls per items
40c difference
or
Elder: 93.125 w/ 2 rolls per items
Hunter: 66.25 w/ 2 rolls per items
27c difference

So while the elder belt is cheaper by at least 20-70c depending on the day, you are likely going to need a few times hitting the mod to get a useful belt. This means after 2 times of hitting the mod, you will have spent 52-80c more on chaos spamming to hit the attributes% mod, which is basically your difference in belt cost, and any further spamming for better belts (usually the case as 2 rolls of attributes isn't likely to be fruitful) or bad luck is mitigated.

Hunter's also has the same slightly higher weighting for max health % which is a decent mod to land.

So tl;dr, elder is only good if you get lucky early, otherwise, invest in a hunter belt and save money in the long run.

Cheers! I knew this was around somewhere, but we get pages so quickly in this thread I lose track of where things are. Maybe I should write them down... :^)
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BopMajster escreveu:
My AG just died in Bazaar map with this mods:


I cleared whole map without a problem like any other map, but at the end i spawned metamorph and he killed all my minions, 2 zombies and 1 spectre left when i died. Somehow i reflected physical damage, but i have no idea how.
Did my minions die because of map or is there any other reason? Is it possible to summon metamorph that reflects damage?


Sounds like you jaked up the metamorph with tons of mods like extra damage and strong crits. Can you recall any of the organs on the meta? hmm

edit: yeap detonate dead would be able to do it for sure XD
Última edição por Linus1985#5731 em 21 de fev de 2020 15:18:56

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