[3.13] CHAOSMANCER (100% CHAOS Spiders and Zombies) Build. <2 min UBER ELDER. INSANE Clear Speed!

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Angry_Roleplayer escreveu:

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schalander escreveu:

I actually think I came up with something smart that solves all summoning spider problems without changing this build at all...

For one of the 4 links I go cyclone - cast while channeling - desecrate - spirit offering

For the shield I am going shield charge - fortify - faster attacks.

The cost? 1 gem, spell cascade. The benefit? 100% spider uptime (just use flask while cylcone).

I AM A GENIUS!!!

But how many spiders you summon per flask?

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schalander escreveu:

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Angry_Roleplayer escreveu:

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schalander escreveu:

I actually think I came up with something smart that solves all summoning spider problems without changing this build at all...

For one of the 4 links I go cyclone - cast while channeling - desecrate - spirit offering

For the shield I am going shield charge - fortify - faster attacks.

The cost? 1 gem, spell cascade. The benefit? 100% spider uptime (just use flask while cylcone).

I AM A GENIUS!!!

But how many spiders you summon per flask?

It depends on how many desecrates I allow to go off. Each flask use summons 2 worms, which means if you got enough desecrates, you can get 20 spiders if you kill both worms. 2-3 desecrates takes less than a second and that usually means 16-20 spiders for one flask press and you got two. The thing about this method is that you never need to slow down or stop moving. When the spiders disappear you just hold down your right mouse button to cyclone while moving, aiming the desecrate infront of you and press the flask, it actually works better when moving.

I actually prefer to do it with one desecrate to get around 10 spiders, then do the same thing again 10 seconds later to get 20. Since the spiders are on individual timers it means that when the first 10 goes away, you will still have 10 spiders up, and can summon 10 more and never be without spiders.

Getting a 20% quality cyclone (0.5% increased aoe per quality %) and allowing it to reach the max stage before flasking helps a lot since the worms can fly pretty far sometimes. Also, its a lot more difficult to get max amount of worms if you have spirit offering on the same cast since it really requires some timing. You will get 5-10 spiders per flask use since u cant have more than one desecrate on the ground, but if you are clearing maps and getting flask refills all the time it does not matter. Like I said above, I actually prefer getting less worms per flask use as it helps with always having spiders up.

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Angry_Roleplayer escreveu:

Terrible thing than. You need to have all worms in 1 cast and a single flask use. That's the reason why this build functions as great as it is

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schalander escreveu:

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Angry_Roleplayer escreveu:

Terrible thing than. You need to have all worms in 1 cast and a single flask use. That's the reason why this build functions as great as it is

I guess we have to agree to disagree then. For me its much more important to have a 100% chance to summon 18-20 spiders every time (or 10 if I want to) in a split second with one key press while running through a delirium than having to stop and cast two spells and hope that I kill the worms before my minions do it.

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Keyen escreveu:

I have several problems with things stated by the guide:
-The "chaos is better" explanation is really short. As if the fact boss have slightly less chaos resist is relevant in a world where every elemental summoner has EE and where elemental curse have +15% resistance reduction compared to despair. In a world where hatred or impale are giving insane scaling. In a world where spiders are damage immune and so don't give a shit about reflect, be it in a physical or elemental build. You talk about wither, but without wither in the build (and no place to get it, so...)?
-I also opened the pob, and something is obviously missing here. I mean, spider dps is 113K, Zombie dps is 87K, totalling a whopping 3.4M dps. While it's obviously enough to clear all content, I have trouble to see how it's "the strongest minion build" when you can easily reach 10-15M with spiders alone.
-You are using ruthless on spiders, which is.... the worst choice available? I mean, come on, MPD is +15% more dps, or even better, Withering touch, which is a whopping 74% more dps given how it finally give you access to wither...