[3.25] The Viper & The Mamba 🐍 Mamba with Bino | Viper with Venom Gyre

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sqter0 escreveu:

F..k It.
I'm too old for this. I play for fun, not results. I'll play Pathfinder because I like it and it's perfect for this job :)
And you... you're doing a great job :)
Good luck

Hey thanks, glad you enjoy !

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FULL 3.24 UPDATES

The Viper : https://pobb.in/Na5aKywyq6Nx

I've explained the rework of the Viper in a previous post.
In short : Mahuxotl shield + Cowl of the Thermophile = no need for fire res and you don't take any cold and lightning dmg.

The Mamba https://pobb.in/vcy9ofryEoHP

This rework has been more difficult.
With the loss of Tinctures from Affliction, we lose like 65% of dmg.
So I have added a large cluster jewel + a second medium cluster with Low Tolerance.
Slightly reworked the skill tree to put these clusters.
Survivability was too bad with The Covenant, so I have chosen The Perfect Form instead.

Now, we have ~50% of the dmg from Affliction league. But without the wisps to buff them, the enemies are way less tanky. So you can continue to explode packs with a single hit !

First post has been updated.

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Here is a demo video featuring all these changes and updates :

#1: The Viper (improved) & The Mamba (saved from nerfs !)

Hope you like it, and thanks again for your interest in this build. Have fun !

Thanx for helping me.

Hi Exiles !

I'm excited to show you a complete rework for the Mamba.

With this new version, you will feel like a true Assassin, ambushing your enemies and killing them with a single deadly poison.

PoB : https://pobb.in/RF1bQO0ZCi-R

DPS :
* With The Perfect Form, 9M. (As good as in Affliction league, when we had the Poisonberry Tincture.)
* With The Covenant, 16M.

/!\ I use The Perfect Form for general mapping. The Covenant can be used for bosses. To use the Covenant at all times, you will need a Mageblood, otherwise you will be too squishy.

Gearing



Main changes :

* A Rebuke sword is replaced with Bino's Kitchen dagger for a huge poison proliferation. Combined with Profane Bloom, you get Chaosplosions prolif !

* The other Rebuke can be replaced with a better rare sword.

* Stacking 4 Low Tolerance notables + poison mastery. Total : 1500% inc dmg with the single poison of Mamba !

* Despair is now applied by a Skitterbot, via Profane Proxy ring.

* Improved mana reservation to add Grace.

* The Vertex helmet for evasion, chaos res, +1 level to gems. Optimized setup with Withering Steps + level 4 Enhance to instantly apply 15 wither stacks.

* Increased Melee range for better strikes.

Here is a demo video to show all these changes :

The Mamba Strike

See how you can destroy Blight lanes with chaos explosions that feel like chain detonations !

Hope you like it, good luck and have fun :)



I want to thank Logisticxs who inspired a lot of these changes.

He has a very optimized version of the build with the Juggernaut, and his friend has a very powerful Occultist version.
PoB :
* Juggernaut : https://pobb.in/--lhOg6nbP5r
* Occultist : https://pobb.in/LbrCXv8S2Snc
22M DPS,75k EHP.

Updated PoB for the Mamba : https://pobb.in/RF1bQO0ZCi-R

Updating first post.

Preparing 3.25

I'm honored that people are impatient to get an updated PoB for the Mamba. I'll post one as soon as PoB is updated. And I'm even more impatient to play it. Expect a demo video for August, 2nd.

* Changed the name of the build to : The Viper & The Mamba. Updated the introduction text.

* A bit worried by the rework of Perfect Agony, as it will force us to always crit (non-crit will not apply ailments).
For the Mamba, Ambush guarantees a crit, so that can be massive. For the Viper, this is an issue.

* Melee skills are massively buffed.
For the Mamba, it is pure bonus, as I was not using any Ancestral totem.
Plus the Tinctures are back, so that can be a massive DPS boost. We shall see what are the new mods and what are the new unique Tinctures.
This will require some investment in mana to compensate for the Mana burn. I may add Clarity.

The full mamba cycle will be :
1- Poacher's Mark
2- Withering Step
3- Activate Tincture
4- Ambush
5- Mamba Strike

A quite complex but rewarding combo.

* For the Viper, the removal of Ancestral Protector should not be an issue, as I was seldom using it, except for a nice culling strike. This will free 4 sockets, so I may put a ranged skill like Cobra Lash linked to culling strike. The Viper will spit poison to finish enemies off !
(Makes me think of the raptor spitting this black goo on the traitor in the first Jurassik Park.)

* For the Viper, I'm worried of the rework for Vaal Pact, which we get on the Mahuxotl shield. Instant leech is good, but the removal of any other source of life recovery (including life gained on hit) is bad.

Take care, Exiles !

Hey Rahsaan, thank you for the great guide. Apologies if this is answered elsewhere, I just couldn't find it. How would this compare to something like Molten Strike poison Pathfinder? Could Pathfinder use the same helmet/shield setup? Do you think PF with MS has an easier time reaching dot cap for Viper? (since it looks like Mamba will be better for Occultist)

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xxBLyNQxx escreveu:

Hey Rahsaan, thank you for the great guide. Apologies if this is answered elsewhere, I just couldn't find it. How would this compare to something like Molten Strike poison Pathfinder? Could Pathfinder use the same helmet/shield setup? Do you think PF with MS has an easier time reaching dot cap for Viper? (since it looks like Mamba will be better for Occultist)

Hi,
If you search on poe.ninja, you'll find that most Mamba builds since 3.23 have been PF. My gear setup is similar to theirs. Start with dual Rebuke of the Vaal swords, then better rare swords or claws (Void Fangs)

https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis?skills=Viper+Strike+of+the+Mamba

But they use Lightning Coil, while I prefer the Perfect Form.


I'm not knowledgeable in poison Molten Strike, sadly.

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rahsaan escreveu:

https://poe.ninja/builds/necropolis?skills=Viper+Strike+of+the+Mamba

But they use Lightning Coil, while I prefer the Perfect Form.

I'm not knowledgeable in poison Molten Strike, sadly.

All good, thank you for the quick response, keep up the great work!

Good luck in 3.25

The Mamba 3.25 beta : https://pobb.in/pEjReKufcQg8 

No Tincture for the moment.

Important note regarding Perfect Agony (PA) : With the buff to melee skills, I get 11M DPS, compared to 9M in the final version of 3.24.
But this is without PA. Why ? Because Allocating PA would now require significant investment in crit chance (because non-crit now deal no ailments). For the moment, without Ambush, I have only 16% crit chance. So for the moment, PA is not allocated.
I'll try to rework the build later so as to allocate it.

The Viper 3.25 beta : https://pobb.in/ZOxz9JCcoYT8

* Viper Strike massively buffed : from 7.5M DPS with Ancestral Protector in 3.24 to 12.3M in 3.25 = 64% more DPS !
(no Vaal Blight)

* Ancestral Protector is replaced with Cobra Lash linked to Culling Strike.
With Vaal Pact from the Mahuxotl shield, melee leech in instant. But Cobra Lash can provide some nice non-instant leech.

* Melee skills mana cost has been increased, so possible issues with mana.

* A Poisonberry Tincture can grant at least 15% more DPS. But once again, possible issues with mana.

Good luck and have fun !