[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

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MontaYuras escreveu:
hi even when we convert to 3.16 in POB , I don't see the clusters jewels


Seems bugged if you convert old builds. You need to unequip them and equip them again.

Old builds are much worse now that they changed the medium clusters too, keep that in mind.
I follow your build (great one btw), but all the pob links shows the same thing ( low/medium/highend) . Is it possible that you send me the end game one please ?

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MontaYuras escreveu:
I follow your build (great one btw), but all the pob links shows the same thing ( low/medium/highend) . Is it possible that you send me the end game one please ?



This is the intermediate build lategame version for now.

https://pastebin.com/KQTC2tLU

Will make a high end one later.
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Deadandlivin escreveu:
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Zegai escreveu:
So, one of the new specters (Demon Harpy) has a debuff that increases enemy phys dmg taken.. and apparently Primal Crushclaw has a similar debuff for cold (I wasn't aware of it).
I wonder if it'd be worthwhile running 2 SOs/2 Crushclaws (or 3/1, or 2/1/1 of another support specter) since the phantasms are taking a bit more of a clearing/dps role here.

(As for the Harpies - they are mostly a support minion since they convert 75% of their dmg to fire.. so they can't take advantage of their own debuff)


Everyone seems very hyped about the harpies, which is cool, but as you said they're only good for support.

I tried them out at level ~40ish because I wanted to ressurect that giant demon from my scourges. It was cool and all but I quickly knew they wouldn't be too good for clearing.
The only noticable ability was the scream thing which seemed to be on a cooldown and ths spectres CC themselves while doing it. So if you kill mobs for clearing they're spending alot of time channeling the scream and not actually killing other things.

They might prove to be very good for ST if you run pure phys though, atleast one of them. The 75% fire Conversion also makes sure you really can't scale them for solo carrying.

How big is the primal crushclaw effect.
Tried looking it up on PoEdb and couldn't find anything about it at all. If Primal Crushclaws apply a, say 20% more cold damage taken modifier or so we definitely want to drop one spectre, atleast when we run 4 of them.


There's a post on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/l40ja0/psa_the_screech_debuff_from_primal_crushclaw/) saying 50% increased dmg taken during the debuff.. it'd be less than that since it probably stacks additively with bonechill. Maybe a 25% damage increase with ~50% uptime?

ATM since I haven't gone to triads yet I'm trying out the harpies. 2 SOs and 1 harpy is keeping phantasms up just fine, but I'm thinking a 6th link would be helpful for damage.
@Deadandlivin

Why do we scale our cold damage before transitioning to 4G Triad ? Looking at your character I can see that you use 3-link Skiiterbots, Frostbite, Ele Army despite dealing only a fraction of the whole damage as cold.
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Its_OP escreveu:
@Deadandlivin

Why do we scale our cold damage before transitioning to 4G Triad ? Looking at your character I can see that you use 3-link Skiiterbots, Frostbite, Ele Army despite dealing only a fraction of the whole damage as cold.


Because Hatred is OP :-)

Simply, I get better numbers running this than with Pride + Dread Banner.
It's just better.

Switching to full Phys with Pride, Blood and Sand, Dread Banner and Vulnerability.

A pure phys version still does ~20% less damage.
Última edição por Deadandlivin#2745 em 24 de out de 2021 10:27:18
What flask setup are we aiming to run now with this build? The ones in the PoBs have e.g. the old ailment immunity affixes.
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iamjackthelad escreveu:
What flask setup are we aiming to run now with this build? The ones in the PoBs have e.g. the old ailment immunity affixes.


Not sure.
I'm running Quicksilver, Silver Flask, Jade and Granite.

Not really caring about suffixes atm. There are new suffixes out and they have tiers now so you want ilvl84 flasks before you start minmaxing flasks I think.
Just get things that you think sound nice.

We're getting Freeze immunity from Pantheon.
Thanks for the highly informative posts Deadandlivin. I will follow up on your advice.
Hey, is there any guide how do we get Syndicate Operative spectres?
I am 81 already but I haven't found a single one. Are they available only in the research hideout path?(After getting 100% progress) That looks quite a lot of time. Also I wonder how to reliably raise them if I run cold build already and everything just shredded into pieces without corpses...

Thanks
PoE nowadays looks more and more like a fork server with tons of custom weird experimental stuff rather than original game with carefully thought out balance brough live to players.

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