👻3.20👻 Kay's Summoner💥SRS Bomber💀Poison SRS💀Melee SRS🕷️Spiders💀Skeleton Mages

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Dartiuseg escreveu:

Thanks for reply.
After switching haste(used with phasing) to determination(with skin of the lords and rumi its 90% phys) skelebuild is so much more satisfying. Only problem is clear speed, if compared to spectres build(unlike boss killing).
On a way from 92 to 93 lvl i died 2 times, but it was 15+ corrupted maps with scourge and delving 150, so its a way. Added ag with kingmaker and ephemeral, but didnt test it yet.
Still thinking about switching to pure spectres with herders, but will wait for currency and few patches.

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Hakairo escreveu:

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Dartiuseg escreveu:

Thanks for reply.
After switching haste(used with phasing) to determination(with skin of the lords and rumi its 90% phys) skelebuild is so much more satisfying. Only problem is clear speed, if compared to spectres build(unlike boss killing).
On a way from 92 to 93 lvl i died 2 times, but it was 15+ corrupted maps with scourge and delving 150, so its a way. Added ag with kingmaker and ephemeral, but didnt test it yet.
Still thinking about switching to pure spectres with herders, but will wait for currency and few patches.

I can recommend melee splash damage instead of e.g. brutality. Makes clear speed extremely good. I swap back to Brutality for bosses. No matter what I do, even if I switch out all my defense for more offense, the clear speed is nothing compared to using melee splash gem.

Even if you have 0% on melee splash, as long as their are at least 2 enemies in Range of your skeleton (1 main target, 1 aoe target), it increases the damage your skeletons dish out and therefore increase clear speed. And if you add quality to either Anomalous or Divergent this will get much better. I recommend Anomalous since this increases DPS against single target for tanky rares, betrayel guys, etc.

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Dartiuseg escreveu:

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Hakairo escreveu:

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Dartiuseg escreveu:

Thanks for reply.
After switching haste(used with phasing) to determination(with skin of the lords and rumi its 90% phys) skelebuild is so much more satisfying. Only problem is clear speed, if compared to spectres build(unlike boss killing).
On a way from 92 to 93 lvl i died 2 times, but it was 15+ corrupted maps with scourge and delving 150, so its a way. Added ag with kingmaker and ephemeral, but didnt test it yet.
Still thinking about switching to pure spectres with herders, but will wait for currency and few patches.

I can recommend melee splash damage instead of e.g. brutality. Makes clear speed extremely good. I swap back to Brutality for bosses. No matter what I do, even if I switch out all my defense for more offense, the clear speed is nothing compared to using melee splash gem.

Even if you have 0% on melee splash, as long as their are at least 2 enemies in Range of your skeleton (1 main target, 1 aoe target), it increases the damage your skeletons dish out and therefore increase clear speed. And if you add quality to either Anomalous or Divergent this will get much better. I recommend Anomalous since this increases DPS against single target for tanky rares, betrayel guys, etc.

Well, i'm already using it. Still not as fast as spectre.
Thanks for advice with anomalous version)

Also i use melee strike gem, not brutal - for intimidate and unholy might mastery(even if it proc only on kill). And brutal cost like 10 times more.
Maybe i miss something in brutal?

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I just imported your character in PoB and at least the numbers are way better than mine (which was expected) so I am not sure why it should be slower for you :o

I have a theory which could explain this even though the better numbers in PoB. Please keep in mind that I am not a pro and this is all theory:

1. You do not have Generosity for Dread Banner for the 100% impale chance. (Also be aware that you want Divergent quality to get 100% and not superior). And Generosity also increases the impale effect.
2. Number 1 alone is not that important but a difference is that you do not use Multistrike but I do. The Combination of Splash, Multistrike und 100% impale basically generates a quick wave of Impale Splashes. Attacking quickly to impale quickly is helpful for clearing fast
3. The above mentioned implies that attack speed is key. Thats Why I use Brutality. Melee Damage has reduced attack speed. Also in PoB Brutality gives me slightly better numbers. Anyhow this should be irrelevant for clearing.
4. Also I noticed that you do not use the double curse setup with punishment and and Poachers mark. On bigger/tankier packs I throw a quick double curse. This causes the first few mobs to die very quickly. Thanks to Poachers mark the skeletons will now have full frenzy charges and just rush through the remaining mobs

This is all theory but all these things should be the difference why you are maybe feeling slow while I do not? Anyhow you currently should be way faster at killing bosses than I am. Also "Clear Speed" is a hard thing to meassure or compare due to many factors.

Anyhow I also took some inspiration from your setup to maybe make some changes on my setup. and maybe one, some or all of the above can change your clear speed.

EDIT: since I had the feeling I was not quite clear about one thing, I want to clarify what my point is, by just quoting the wiki on Impale: "The slower the attack speed of the character and the less hits per attack, the longer it will take to start doing maximum impale damage per hit.".
So with lower attack speed you take longer to benefit from impale. This is fine for bosses (maybe even better?). But for clearing Impale gets way weaker the lower the attack speed and impale chance is. This is why I think that increasing attack speed with multistrike and frenzy and impale chance will increase clear speed since it takes way less time to benefit from Impale.

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Koroqz escreveu:

Still have a few questions about the skeleton army build, I'm quite new so hope they are not too stupid:

1 I noticed in the video Kay has a icon (top left) to show Flesh Offering being active yes or no. How? I don't get that, only the indicator above my head.

2 How does the Poachers mark work together with Pride?

The wiki says Casting either one manually will trigger all of the socketed curses. But you only cast Pride once because its an aura? Or am I supposed to manually cast Poachers Mark?

3 Related to 2: Why does the video say: *must have 20% Poachers Mark.

Someone already said that its better at 20% and ofc it is, but why MUST it be 20%?

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Hakairo escreveu:

2. You have to get something wrong and I dont know where. Pride has nothing to do with poachers mark. You use Punishment (or whatever curse u want technically) which triggers Poachers Mark due to Vixen.