[3.18] Gryph's Tank Simulator - A Detonate Dead Ignite Elementalist

95 max is good to know, as it means we can limit ourselves to +4 gloves, which are much more doable.
Última edição por NoImagination#6952 em 14 de fev de 2022 13:39:54
I'm playing a variation of this build currently, but mostly went for extra tank with spell suppression. Obviously some things can be improved(such as higher level empower/enhance) but:

https://pastebin.com/7wJmcdfY


The only problem I notice so far is that the boss damage is really, really, really low. Takes me about 2-3 minutes to kill eater of worlds, almost bricked the fat dude before eater due to being digested 4 times and stacking 70 stacks of the digestive fluids.
Última edição por gtankbr#3301 em 14 de fev de 2022 13:39:14
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gtankbr escreveu:
The only problem I notice so far is that the boss damage is really, really, really low. Takes me about 2-3 minutes to kill eater of worlds, almost bricked the fat dude before eater due to being digested 4 times and stacking 70 stacks of the digestive fluids.

Easiest thing to do would be to improve your wand. You have 1 mod and 1 implicit on it that helps. Just get an obliteration, it's at least more fun.
Última edição por NoImagination#6952 em 14 de fev de 2022 13:45:55
My unearth is lvl.. 27 atm, if I swapped the empower I believe it would go to 29 or so. I can't fit it on gloves unless I swap the whole build around.
I edited a bit, because really, getting some damage mods on a wand will help a lot :)
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NoImagination escreveu:
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gtankbr escreveu:
The only problem I notice so far is that the boss damage is really, really, really low. Takes me about 2-3 minutes to kill eater of worlds, almost bricked the fat dude before eater due to being digested 4 times and stacking 70 stacks of the digestive fluids.

Easiest thing to do would be to improve your wand. You have 1 mod and 1 implicit on it that helps. Just get an obliteration, it's at least more fun.


I've been trying to get a better one, just having a really hard time finding anything decent.
POB item tester is good for finding out the best possible weapons for x price. Or just do a count-search for getting 3 or 4 useful mods.

Edit: or just 1c, it'll at least be more fun than current wand, though no better for bossing.
Última edição por NoImagination#6952 em 14 de fev de 2022 13:52:59
I'm not worried about clearing, the bossing is what's really concerning to me. I've killed Elder/Shaper/Sirus/younameit god knows how many times in god knows how many different builds, a 2-3 minutes fight is REALLY bizarre to me so I was trying to figure out if it was the corpse life or if the weapon has THAT much of an impact on the corpse explosion DD. I'm trying to configure pob tester atm, failed a couple years back but we try again!
Edit:

Ok, got it working. There's ONE wand for sale for 10 ex that would give me a 7% dps increase. There has to be something I'm doing wrong, 7% is not gonna change a 3 minutes elder to a 40 seconds elder.
Última edição por gtankbr#3301 em 14 de fev de 2022 14:21:57
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gtankbr escreveu:
My unearth is lvl.. 27 atm, if I swapped the empower I believe it would go to 29 or so. I can't fit it on gloves unless I swap the whole build around.

Yea, you shouldve had it on gloves so you could benefit from +1-5 socketed gem levels to unearth which is a more multiplier per level. You can probably still get a cheapish psuedo +4 for not too much, doesnt need to be on a hotht, unless you can afford a +3 or +5 imo.
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion (Proverbs 18:2)
Última edição por JackOfAllBacons#6982 em 14 de fev de 2022 15:15:19
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Gryphenprey escreveu:
Using Flesh Offering as a Necro instead of Bone Offering would feel very, very wrong. xD But she'll move faster from Corpse Pact attack speed boost.
I think the ideal setup is Necromancer with Shaper of Flame jewels. This gets you a nice damage boost AND lets you have chain explosions easily.

Also, do you have a source for Unearth corpses capping at 95? Thus far I've been suggesting getting to level 30 and stopping because it takes 2 gem levels to get 1 corpse level past that. But with the new Amulet it's not unreasonable to get to level 96 with +1 on weapon as well.


If you are using Glancing Blows/Aegis combo anyway, there is no need for Bone Offering (since you are already block capped) and since you have the gem slots you can go with a Flesh Offering trigger weapon setup. With the offering mastery this provides you 21% attack, cast and movement speed, so basically an onslaught effect on top of onslaught which is significant regarding map clear speed.

You are right, Shaper of Flames though Forbidden Jewels on Necro would likely get the most out of it (if you can sacrifice 2 jewel slots), but Mastermind of Discord (best improvement for bossing) or Heart of Destruction are nice too (and probably much cheaper currently, since Shaper of Flames is highly thought after) - anyway; if you come by getting a shaper of flames you should probably try Occultist anyway with Black Flame ring, which looks promising too.

Regarding the maximum corpse level of 95: It is directly from the gem data. Unearth is not able to create any corpse >lvl95 simply because it is not implemented in the gem/game - there is no data stored for higher corpse levels on the gem, while there is for Desecrate, which can go up to corpse lvl 100. Nothing in the game is able to create a corpse >lvl 100 if you are wondering, since it is just not implemented (even if there was a possibility to do so, it would not be possible)

So, if you would have a lvl 32 Unearth paired with the +5 enchant, you would still create a lvl 95 corpse since this is the maximum the gem can produce.


Oh see, I would drop Glancing Blows if I had mistress of sacrifice and save the many points of traveling there. :)

Also, the highest the gem goes is 95 because that's as high as it goes at level 40...I would still assume you can go higher on corpse level due to the helmet enchant, capping at 100 as that is actually the highest possible theoretical level you *could* hit because you can't get higher than level 40 unearth: +5 Staff, +9 Gloves, +2 amulet, 4 empower, and level 21 gem.

Just because the gem information on the poedb page caps the gem level at 40 (because that's literally the cap of possibility) doesn't mean it *can't* produce higher level corpses.

In fact, we *do* have some information on monster health all the way up to 100. I don't know how it correlates to corpse life as the values are MUCH lower than the page for Bone Archers, but it exists:
https://poedb.tw/us/Monster_level

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