[Phrecia] The dirty Scorpion-Tail|660m|Herald of Agony|CI Cyclone-Necro|The Arachnophobia Allstars

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Lindean#3649 escreveu:

So what do You think about the Widowhail + Rearguard version of the build?
I've tried to follow Your guide but is so overwhelmingly complex. And it feels a lot of information can be cut out. For example - why include like 10 possible virulence generation setups/skills instead of like two/three best ones?
I had lucky drop from sailing which ended up netting me 4 divs but I had no idea how to proceed with 5 socket voices costing around 3 divs each and overall very limited availabilty of the items listed in the guide itself made me jump to the bow side but I don't like the feeling of it.

I see that You started playing the event, how do You manage without convocation? Crawler is so dumb. Don't You feel squishy? Getting through campaing with HoA was one of the WORST experiences in my entire poe1 carrier.

Bowskills are too squishy and clunky in my experiences, and I tested them often. Most worst is that they are far too slow for high-virulences-HoA. You will be limited to low virulences with much lower, around 1/10 or 1/20, only 5-10% of the damage of this build here woth ball lightnings, tornadoes etc. in lategame.

You need only the 5 passives voices, they are enough for 660M dps. Their prices go ordinary fast down to somewhere around 20 chaos. Their droprate was extreme buffed, so they are a quite common drop in simulacrums too. You need better voices only when you want to reach 1.2 billion up to 1.5 billion ultra-damage.

About skill-variations, it`s written in the Pro/Con and in the intro of the skills for HoA-virulences. It`s almost unique in poe that a minion-skill is so versatile like the HoA. You could define HoA also as damage-triggersupport. Only spectres are more flexible ingame.
When you like flexibility and to test out skills, that spoiler will be interesting. When not, simply go with the default cyclone - cwc - ball lightning of orbiting, it`s the best mix for smooth moving and virulences.
I liked to write a comprehensive guide too, not only a copy-my-pob-thread like others, and took in variations in subspoilers.
The less complex HoA-builds also reach only 20-40M and not 80-660M like this one.

Yes, convocation is recommended.

Probably you did something different. HoA is not the fastest, but is useable for speedlevelling when you have some poe-experiences.
I started some days late and had not much time to play until now. I started with flamewall as damageskill act 1-3, then poisonous concoction+HoA, then switched early into solely HoA as damageskill. I simply activated a second recouping-mastery for more recovery. Damage is already far more than needed, so I pathed for early 100% spell suppression also to "quickstep" and a 1 chaos small cluster "elegant form".

With in total 3 chaos and 2 fusings I obtained enough gear for full juiced red t-5 until now with lvl 70, still wearing also my blue rings from lvl 40 and lvl 24 onwards and amulet from lvl 18 onwards into maps, still without HoA-clusters, still on a 1-chaos 5-link armour, HoA gem level is 16, qu 0, lol. I tested HoP too, so I have still -60% negative chaos resis and can do the maps. So, to be honest, with the herald-tree it`s a bit too easy overall until now, hehehe.

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jinda002#1564 escreveu:

Hi can you please explain why are we stacking alot of curses?

Because we do not need the circle of nostalgia rings in Legacy of Phrecia, the ring slots are quite flexible. So the anathema-moonstone ring is the most strongest variation.

With 4 curses we add the most high damage and also high defences beside.
But the curses are some additional clicks, so they are mainly used against the pinnacles and ubers.

In other content the HoA-damage is so high that you can very easy always switch instead other skills in.

So what can I do to get back on the right track? As I don't like dying in T6. Clear speed is fine as stacking Virulence on multiple targets is great but it's hard to get pass 40 on single target. Life on hit also gives decent tankiness but also falls off hard on single target.
Guess my chestplate is usable for some time. As it will take some time for proper Skin of the Lords to appear. What about rest of my equipment? I would need a melee weapon (for cyclone) and some shield. What comes after Cold Iron Point? Aegis Aurora drops rapidly in price so I could probably grab that.
My skill tree is obviously a mess but that's easiest to fix.

Also regarding curses - are we manually casting them?

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Lindean#3649 escreveu:

So what can I do to get back on the right track? As I don't like dying in T6. Clear speed is fine as stacking Virulence on multiple targets is great but it's hard to get pass 40 on single target. Life on hit also gives decent tankiness but also falls off hard on single target.
Guess my chestplate is usable for some time. As it will take some time for proper Skin of the Lords to appear. What about rest of my equipment? I would need a melee weapon (for cyclone) and some shield. What comes after Cold Iron Point? Aegis Aurora drops rapidly in price so I could probably grab that.
My skill tree is obviously a mess but that's easiest to fix.

Also regarding curses - are we manually casting them?

Hi!

You can check my profile and character NioHails, I'm currently farming T10's due to the lack of finding higher maps. I'm casting curses myself, got a melee weapon and just did some upgrades.

Cyclone + Arcanist brand = easy max stacks.

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Lindean#3649 escreveu:

So what can I do to get back on the right track? As I don't like dying in T6. Clear speed is fine as stacking Virulence on multiple targets is great but it's hard to get pass 40 on single target. Life on hit also gives decent tankiness but also falls off hard on single target.
Guess my chestplate is usable for some time. As it will take some time for proper Skin of the Lords to appear. What about rest of my equipment? I would need a melee weapon (for cyclone) and some shield. What comes after Cold Iron Point? Aegis Aurora drops rapidly in price so I could probably grab that.
My skill tree is obviously a mess but that's easiest to fix.

Also regarding curses - are we manually casting them?

With your bow+rearguard you have good recovery while there are some enemies, but while moving you have no optimal defences.

And do not forget defensive layerings like corrupted blood, burning ground, bleeding, poison immunities etc., seems you don`t have them in your set-up. Each will kill you often.

Like ArcticWolf writes, bowskills produce only much lower HoA-virulences and so lower damage.

The best HoA-generators are like guided:

cyclone (lvl1)- (awakened) cast while channelling (lvl 5) - ball lightning of orbiting - tornadoes of elemental turbulences / frost shield

storm burst (lvl 2) - (awakened) cast while channeling (lvl 5) - ball lightning of static - tornado of elemental turbulences

The tornadoes you can trigger also cwdt, arcanist brand etc.

3 curses can be triggered in maps with asenaths gloves.