🌬️⛵☁️[3.25] The dirty Scorpion-tail|Chaos-Necromancy 600M+|Herald of Agony CI-Arachnophobia Allstars

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shabanotti escreveu:
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Lyutsifer665 escreveu:
how do spiders feel this league? DPS is still good or you can feel the nerfs?

I have to say I've never played an arachnophilia build seriously before so probably not the best person to ask for a comparison. However, I can say the DPS does not seem bad at all, and I have yet to use the full phys to chaos conversion. Still missing a lot of DPS and defenses.
The build has a lot of promise - The biggest problem I am finding with it now - there is no BiS chest for purchase on the market. :'( 4g1b1r Ghost Dance skin of the lords does not exist at this moment.

I am a bit worried I won't even be able to buy the Aul's by the time I get the divines.
Oh well...


i see. i cant even afford the dagger yet so i was just wondering if its worth waiting or i should just reroll to another build.
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shabanotti escreveu:
I'm a bit lost. I have
Aegis Aurora, Arakaali's Fang,
My gems are decent level, not maxed fully yet, but my DPS gems are good.
I have Divergent Cast when Stunned with 20% qual, running grace, disc, determination, tempest shield and have 70+ spell block, 32% attack block. Finally hit corrupted blood corrupt on Golden Rule after 30+ jewels.

My evasion is good with flasks, but without it's NOT great.

So I don't know how to improve my survivability until I get Aul's so I can use Purity of Ice + Melding.

I can't get ele ailments immunity yet because I need to use Champion of the cause on amulet since my mana is SO low without it. I don't even run Clarity.

I can often run many t16 easy, survive legions, but I often get one shot in the end. Also, ignite absolutely destroys me, same as Plaza boss, if I can't get away quickly - which often happens I'm dead within 1sec. So I avoid it.

I just can't understand how others are so tanky. I've gone through the checklist for defences, and I have most of it, but still I feel very squishy.

Any ideas? My profile is public, if anyone has time to check it out - thanks in advance!


Hey shabanotti!

Your set-up and gear is already great!

You should take a look on:

- use ignite-removals on one flask, trigggered when you become ignited, like pyrau writes fire is the most dangerous ailment for CI's

- get more energyshield - 4.2k es are a bit low. In your set-up that's not easy - essence surge, a watcher's eye with clarity max mana as es-mod, unique medium clusters with pure agony and es-notables are the first possibilities. When you have more damage with awakened gems you can easy balance more into es.

Later a melding of the flesh reduces damage taken much.

- be careful with map-mods like reduced aura-effects, reduced ar/ block, reduced maximal resistances, burning-exarch-altars

- yes, the plaza-boss is not easy like other bosses with aoe-beams. Throw stormbrands and void spheres and kite behind pillars. Use in the spider-supports unbound ailments and multistrike instead melee-splash and feeding frenzy against them for more spider-damage.

- take a look into "endgame": "level 100", there are tipps for using more tanky skills like frostshield linked into cwc etc.
Última edição por Chromino#4813 em 26 de ago de 2022 09:28:28
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Lyutsifer665 escreveu:
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shabanotti escreveu:
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Lyutsifer665 escreveu:
how do spiders feel this league? DPS is still good or you can feel the nerfs?

I have to say I've never played an arachnophilia build seriously before so probably not the best person to ask for a comparison. However, I can say the DPS does not seem bad at all, and I have yet to use the full phys to chaos conversion. Still missing a lot of DPS and defenses.
The build has a lot of promise - The biggest problem I am finding with it now - there is no BiS chest for purchase on the market. :'( 4g1b1r Ghost Dance skin of the lords does not exist at this moment.

I am a bit worried I won't even be able to buy the Aul's by the time I get the divines.
Oh well...


i see. i cant even afford the dagger yet so i was just wondering if its worth waiting or i should just reroll to another build.


Hi Lyutsifer665!

It's not easy to say when the prices drop. In all last leagues they dropped after the first 4-9 days already much.

Arakaali's is important for the clear speed in maps - before you can easy use phantasms in the HoA supports and withering step / or vaal skeletons for 15 withers, but they do not reach the speed and quality of arakaali's.

Herald of Agony | Summon-Phantasms-Support | Awakened Minion Damage | Empower | Awakened void manipulation | last: vile toxins / predator / damage full life / awakened fork | or without arakaali's fang's: withering touch

The b.i.s. chest is not so much important and max the damage around 5-10%. Other socket-colour-combinations are great in maps too. Or when you reached 90-100% ailment-immunities lethe shade and other keystones are extreme valuable too.
Última edição por Chromino#4813 em 26 de ago de 2022 09:11:49
I have a question, the only curse I see in the "final gear" is sniper mark on cws but we have the node to play 2 curses. We don't play despair?
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Pyrau escreveu:
I have a question, the only curse I see in the "final gear" is sniper mark on cws but we have the node to play 2 curses. We don't play despair?


Hey Pyrau!

Despair is best granted on an unset ring on hit.



You can get it also on gloves on hit or before gearing white socketed triad grips vulnerability is as well valuable too.
Guys, can somebody explain how large cluster jewel show positions right now?
It kinda confusing when on jewel it in 3rd spot, but in descr its 2nd and in tree it is farthest

Spoiler
Última edição por DeadpooLjke#5420 em 26 de ago de 2022 14:02:16
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DeadpooLjke escreveu:
Guys, can somebody explain how large cluster jewel show positions right now?
It kinda confusing when on jewel it in 3rd spot, but in descr its 2nd and in tree it is farthest

Spoiler


Hey deadpool!

In the clusters-notes, with 8 points, 2 jewel slots, 1. and 3. are the notables are close to the passive tree and are transfered when you path to the jewel slots.

2. in the cluster-notes is optional, you don't need it to transfer to the jewel slots.

Because the allstars want to maximal insert medium clusters with pure agony, take the notables you want to use (veteran defender, conjured wall/ magehunter, renewal) on 1. and 3. in the large-clusters description.

So in your cluster you have the skills wanted on 1. and 2.

Better would be (but very rare and more expensive) on 1. and 3.
Última edição por Chromino#4813 em 26 de ago de 2022 15:12:14
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Chromino escreveu:
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DeadpooLjke escreveu:
Guys, can somebody explain how large cluster jewel show positions right now?
It kinda confusing when on jewel it in 3rd spot, but in descr its 2nd and in tree it is farthest

Spoiler


Hey deadpool!

In the clusters-notes, with 8 points, 2 jewel slots, 1. and 3. are the notables are close to the passive tree and are transfered when you path to the jewel slots.

2. in the cluster-notes is optional, you don't need it to transfer to the jewel slots.

Because the allstars want to maximal insert medium clusters with pure agony, take the notables you want to use (veteran defender, conjured wall/ magehunter, renewal) on 1. and 3. in the large-clusters description.

So in your cluster you have the skills wanted on 1. and 2.

Better would be (but very rare and more expensive) on 1. and 3.


On screenshot, on jewel veteran on 3rd slot, but lower he is on 2nd. It is same jewel, so on tree it will be not in place we want. But on market it seems all cluster jewels (at least i looked with veteran node) have it on 3rd position, but in fact it is on second
So Im enjoying the build so far. A couple questions though...

How do we deal with Chaos / Poison Immune Bosses ?? Also I dont have any experience with CI builds - is it mandatory ?? I play HC mode so never tried a CI build before.. Im trying to get most of the tree fleshed out still but I skipped a couple nodes..

I had the hardest time with Doedre and Kitava.. Must have ripped 4 times on each boss .. Currently lvl 69 and heading to Maps so the builds not done yet..

Also I dont understand the Writhing Jar ??? How does that work - is it because the dagger has trigger spiders on kill ?? THey never seem to spawn spiders much for me ...



In game since Minotaur League..
Última edição por Hellzwraith#0237 em 26 de ago de 2022 16:22:18
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Hellzwraith escreveu:
So Im enjoying the build so far. A couple questions though...

How do we deal with Chaos / Poison Immune Bosses ?? Also I dont have any experience with CI builds - is it mandatory ?? I play HC mode so never tried a CI build before.. Im trying to get most of the tree fleshed out still but I skipped a couple nodes..

I had the hardest time with Doedre and Kitava.. Must have ripped 4 times on each boss .. Currently lvl 69 and heading to Maps so the builds not done yet..

Also I dont understand the Writhing Jar ??? How does that work - is it because the dagger has trigger spiders on kill ?? THey never seem to spawn spiders much for me ...





Both HoA and spiders deal physical and chaos damage, so there is no problem before you obtain white socket triad grips.

In endgame as soon as you gear 4 white socket triad grips all minion damage is converted into 100% chaosdamage. Then you kill chaosresistant mobs slower, but there is no real problem too.

The only known tipps needed are: in Expedition is one runemonster-mod 100% chaosimmunity. Skip that or switch in rare gloves instead white trad grips. When simulacrum wave 29-30 has chaos-immune-buffs, you need much longer, so there you can swap gloves too.


For the writhing jar, you need to spawn corpses with desecrate, than use the flask and the strong worms and last an aoe-damage to get a kill, which raises the spiders of arakaali's dagger. You find all tipps in "Important mechanics" - "Wormphilia - raise your spiders".

CI is not mandatory, but with the golden rule jewel you reflect poisons to yourself and so it's a relaxing and efficient keystone in the build.
Última edição por Chromino#4813 em 27 de ago de 2022 14:15:02

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