I actually don't gamble much. I think I'm aware how easily I could ruin myself doing so. Here in Australia, gambling is much less taboo than in certain other first world countries. I grew up experiencing trips to the races where my folks would place a bet or two on my behalf. One of Australia's most sacred days is celebrated with national gambling on a flip of two coins.
It's pretty much in our blood but only a fool a) gambles money he can't afford to lose and b) isn't fully prepared to lose everything he puts in.
I fear I'd be such a fool, so I stay away from the temptation.
In a way supporting GGG is both smarter and dumber than gambling the money. On the one hand, I know the money is going to a good cause. On the other, even gambling has a chance to produce some sort of financial return.
In the end, once you're talking about disposable wealth, it all comes down to whatever will bring the biggest smile to your face. For a lot of people, that means self gratification. To others, it may mean spoiling friends and loved ones. I'm blessed and cursed in that they are one and the same for me.
This dude's English is so awkward, did he even go to school?
I don't see anything wrong with his English, and think it is rather well worded and with the correct grammar. I don't see where the problem is? :S
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*Burnt out and waiting for either PoE1 League or new PoE2 Classes.*
I've said before I would hate to know anyone to whom even a thousand dollars isn't a lot of money, never mind twelve. Such a person has lost a crucial perspective, and is apt to seriously waste their money.
Happens. We all seen Vh-1 behind the music or famous sport stars of old working odd jobs. I make a very good wage today compared to when I was in school and find myself eating out every single meal for over $100 a day. Typically I'm a very frugal person but as I earn more I spend more. That said game is only worth 6 tabs to me or half a dinner until they make a self founded league.
I actually don't gamble much. I think I'm aware how easily I could ruin myself doing so. Here in Australia, gambling is much less taboo than in certain other first world countries. I grew up experiencing trips to the races where my folks would place a bet or two on my behalf. One of Australia's most sacred days is celebrated with national gambling on a flip of two coins.
It's pretty much in our blood but only a fool a) gambles money he can't afford to lose and b) isn't fully prepared to lose everything he puts in.
I fear I'd be such a fool, so I stay away from the temptation.
In a way supporting GGG is both smarter and dumber than gambling the money. On the one hand, I know the money is going to a good cause. On the other, even gambling has a chance to produce some sort of financial return.
In the end, once you're talking about disposable wealth, it all comes down to whatever will bring the biggest smile to your face. For a lot of people, that means self gratification. To others, it may mean spoiling friends and loved ones. I'm blessed and cursed in that they are one and the same for me.
This dude's English is so awkward, did he even go to school?
This dude's English is so awkward, did he even go to school?
Shots fired, its funny since hes a writer. You probably noticed that there is a distinguishable difference to how he writes because of this.
He is wise to stay away from gambling, but his comment "even gambling has a chance to produce some sort of financial return" is quite naive. It is not literally untrue, but gambling is one of two things:
Set up in such as way that probability will 100% make the casino money (I.E you will be losing money).
If you come up with a plan that makes probability work in your favour & it works, the casino will restrict you from gambling
This might not apply to poker & a small few other gambling games, but if you play poker professionally then it becomes like a job, and it will take a lot more work to become good & make money than most other professions.
tl;dr, the probability that there is a financial return in gambling is an illusion
I actually don't gamble much. I think I'm aware how easily I could ruin myself doing so. Here in Australia, gambling is much less taboo than in certain other first world countries. I grew up experiencing trips to the races where my folks would place a bet or two on my behalf. One of Australia's most sacred days is celebrated with national gambling on a flip of two coins.
It's pretty much in our blood but only a fool a) gambles money he can't afford to lose and b) isn't fully prepared to lose everything he puts in.
I fear I'd be such a fool, so I stay away from the temptation.
In a way supporting GGG is both smarter and dumber than gambling the money. On the one hand, I know the money is going to a good cause. On the other, even gambling has a chance to produce some sort of financial return.
In the end, once you're talking about disposable wealth, it all comes down to whatever will bring the biggest smile to your face. For a lot of people, that means self gratification. To others, it may mean spoiling friends and loved ones. I'm blessed and cursed in that they are one and the same for me.
This dude's English is so awkward, did he even go to school?
I hold a creative writing degree, with honours, and worked on an English PhD for three years. I freelance edit/assess novel manuscripts and theses, with several of the works I've treated being successfully published. I even helped write those forum guidelines no one cares about, and have informally proofed some of Chris' posts. Back when I could edit posts secretly I sometimes fixed his typos. :)
I'm not sure why people are suddenly accusing me of being ESL or uneducated. Maybe it's the fact that I've been using a tablet to post these past few weeks, since I can't sit at the computer for long due to post surgery pain.
Either way, yeah. I went to school. I even did fairly well.
PS I just realised you're that genius who accused GGG of being racist over that silly Chinese thread. Yeah, you can go away now.
I was speaking of those professional poker players. Work or not, it's still gambling.
You know what else is gambling? Trading on the stock market. Going to tell me that can't yield financial returns as well?
Easy with the accusation of naivete there.
I meant your comment not you =P. But yeah, I see prof. poker players like the tip of an iceberg, there are a lot of players that lost that support those at the top.
I was mainly referring to casino type gambling, where probability is set up so that it is mathematically certain that the casino will make money.
You can 'gamble' while on the stock market, but the good thing about this is the odds havent been constructed to work against you. I have stocks, but I wouldnt really consider it gambling
It's not pleasant to discuss, Warmey. But if it's painful for me to sit at the computer, you can probably guess roughly which bits of me they keep cutting into.
He is wise to stay away from gambling, but his comment "even gambling has a chance to produce some sort of financial return" is quite naive. It is not literally untrue, but gambling is one of two things:
Set up in such as way that probability will 100% make the casino money (I.E you will be losing money).
If you come up with a plan that makes probability work in your favour & it works, the casino will restrict you from gambling
This might not apply to poker & a small few other gambling games, but if you play poker professionally then it becomes like a job, and it will take a lot more work to become good & make money than most other professions.
tl;dr, the probability that there is a financial return in gambling is an illusion
Spoiler
The Casino doesn't want all of your money, and they certainly don't want it all at once. They have enough experience and expertise to realize that killing the golden goose is short sighted.
If you think of Casinos as a private taxing enterprise, it becomes much more obvious.
They want a %off the top of all the money spent. They are willing to give back some big returns, so long as the overall percentage meets their budget. They are willing to take more in than their budget requires, but they are very leery of seriously offending their tax base.
It is certainly possible for any one person to win a lot of money from the Casinos. In fact, they need a few people to occasionally win big to lure other people in.
They are willing to pay out a good chunk (90% plus is common) of what they take in, because they want gamblers to keep going and feel that they are on the verge of winning big.
Now, if enough people won large enough amounts the Casino would surely step in to limit their losses.
I have a few friends that can and have won consistently at certain Casino games (non-poker) because the odds are not always in the house's favor if you know what you are doing.
The Casinos very rarely shut down the table because my friends never try to win more than a couple hundred in a day. What usually happens, is their "luck" draws in other players. These new players do not know how to consistently win and their poor playing gives the casino the advantage again.
Sometimes these other players actually work for the casino, usually though it's just uninformed or impulsive players.
This ability to consistently win does NOT apply to most casino games, and certainly would not apply to any big winnings.
The comment "even gambling has a chance to produce some sort of financial return" is not naive at all. The comment does not say the overall return will be profitable. Any given act of gambling does have a chance of producing a large return. The chance is very slim, but it does happen.
If no one ever got a return or win on any gambling, the casinos would quickly go bankrupt.
Compare that to supporting PoE for the chance of generating a return. Is GGG offering a chance to win double your supporter pack costs back? Not also, that financial return was specified. In other words, there might be benefits achieved from supporting GGG that do not involve personal economic gain.
That's the gist of the comment, and it rings true.
"The only legitimate use of a computer is to play games." - Eugene Jarvis
PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
Última edição por DalaiLama#6738 em 1 de mar. de 2014 02:28:58
I actually don't gamble much. I think I'm aware how easily I could ruin myself doing so. Here in Australia, gambling is much less taboo than in certain other first world countries. I grew up experiencing trips to the races where my folks would place a bet or two on my behalf. One of Australia's most sacred days is celebrated with national gambling on a flip of two coins.
It's pretty much in our blood but only a fool a) gambles money he can't afford to lose and b) isn't fully prepared to lose everything he puts in.
I fear I'd be such a fool, so I stay away from the temptation.
In a way supporting GGG is both smarter and dumber than gambling the money. On the one hand, I know the money is going to a good cause. On the other, even gambling has a chance to produce some sort of financial return.
In the end, once you're talking about disposable wealth, it all comes down to whatever will bring the biggest smile to your face. For a lot of people, that means self gratification. To others, it may mean spoiling friends and loved ones. I'm blessed and cursed in that they are one and the same for me.
This dude's English is so awkward, did he even go to school?
When I read this I assumed he had meant to quote me as my grammar is not standard.
