Quick questions about Minion Damage passive
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For my summoner build, I use several elemental damage auras to boost the effectiveness of my summons.
My questions are as follows: 1) Do the passive skills which boost minion damage also increase the bonus which they gain from my auras? 2) I know that the Minion Damage support gem increases the minions base damage, but does it also increase the damage from my auras? 3) Skeletons have a penalty to weapon elemental damage of 50%, does this affect damage from auras/support gems? If so, how does the penalty stack/interact with increases in minion damage? 4) How much damage (before bonuses of any kind) do skeletons and zombies actually do? I would really like some numbers so that I could better plan out which passive skills and support gems will give me the best results. I don't really expect an answer for the fourth question since no one has a way to test the numbers at the moment. Thanks in advance. |
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I don't know about the passive, but I do not believe the support gem does more than increase minion base damage.
If you want to increase damage from auras, provided zombie fists are considered "weapons", you could try supporting your minions with "increased weapon elemental damage". And if that doesn't work "faster attacks" will definitely make your auras better for your minions. My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282
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I need to know about the passive skills and how they interact here. I have some skill points which need to be used, but I want to know where they would best be spent.
Also, the "Faster Attacks" has turned out nicely. This summoner is my first character and I had not yet seen that particular support gem (it dropped after your reply). None of this would be a real issue except that I have no way to see damage dealt in actual numbers, so testing for myself would be unfeasible at best. |
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1. No the passive skills only increase the damage directly dealt by the minions.
The extra damage your minions gain from auras are basically counted as different sources of damage and added after the increase in minion damage. 2. Same as above. 3. I'm not sure on this one but im pretty sure the penalty also affects support gems, no idea about passives though. 4. Dunno if there is any actual data about this. |
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"I'm assuming you're specifically talking about the auras that add damage here. If so then yes. Are your minions dealing that damage? Yes. Therefore an effect that says "increased minion damage" will apply. "Again, yes. "Actually, skeletons have a penalty to all elemental damage, but since they never use spells, that doesn't affect the answer, which is yes. The skeletons are dealing elemental damage with their attacks, so elemental damage modifiers apply. All "increased" and "reduced" modifiers always stack additively, whereas "more" and "less" modifiers always stack multiplicatively. The skeletons have 50% less damage, so that's multiplicative, whereas at least most modifiers to their damage that I'm aware of will be "increased", so additive. "It depends on the level of the minion. This is something we'd like to be able to display correctly on the skill popup but can't really do yet. I don't really expect an answer for the fourth question since no one has a way to test the numbers at the moment. Thanks in advance.[/quote] |
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This is great, I was wondering about much the same things just yesterday.
Especially the fourth question is what I'm curious about, do they recieve damage bonuses from equipped +phys/elem damage gear? Does spelldamage passive nodes increase their damage? It'd make sense to not let minions be boosted by player passive talents that aren't directly related to minions, as that might hurt build diversity, but at the same time how are minions balanced out in return... |
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I believe they are heavily evaluating minions in the next upcoming patch. I'm not sure how they're going to fix them, because right now they're frustrating to use, but very powerful already (when they aren't being stupid).
My Keystone Ideas: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/744282
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Thank you very much for your answers, this clears things up for me quite nicely.
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"No. Your gear and passives affect only your stats, not your minions, unless something specifically applies them to minions. |
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Does minion damage increase their explosion damage when combined with instability?
RIP Bolto
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