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Strill escreveu:

So if I link this to Ice Spear, will the newly chained projectile be the initial piercing shot, or the high crit shot? I certainly hope it's the high crit shot otherwise this gem would be worthless with it.

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Mark_GGG escreveu:

Ice spear can never, chain without changing form. The first form always pierces, and thus never chains. If it chains from a monster, then it changed form before hitting that monster - but it may have done so just as it hit, and thus only just started the changing animation.

Ice spear's form change is triggered on distance from that spear's origin - in the case of chaining, each time it chains it has a new origin (the monster it chained from) so will start in the first form until it moves far enough from that monster.

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soul4hdwn escreveu:

i just explained lmp with sparks.

Spoiler

if there are 4 foes and three are hit with the first three shots, then 3 others will take each of the splits not counting the first ones that were hit by the source of the split.

so monster a, b, c, and d are around. a, b, and c get hit by the lmp light arrows. the shot that hit a splits to b, c, and d; the shot that hit b splits to a, c, and d; the shot that hit c splits to a, b, and d.

hope that helps.

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Orphius escreveu:

So what happens if all three projectiles hits A? Are there nine chains from that or just three?

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Orphius escreveu:

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Strill escreveu:

So if I link this to Ice Spear, will the newly chained projectile be the initial piercing shot, or the high crit shot? I certainly hope it's the high crit shot otherwise this gem would be worthless with it.

This I did test and am very certain on the results (but confirmation would still be great). If you hit with Ice Spear in its second form, it will chain, and it will chain in its first form, but it will morph into it's second form if it travels far enough. But that's not all.
A--------------------------B
So let's say we hit enemy A with Ice Spear. It chains over to B, but does not change form. When it bounces back to A, it may change form despite the distances between the two being the same. That means each bounce does not seem to reset the total distance travelled.

On a separate note, I was looking at whether all not all projectiles from LMP bounce and it was ridiculously hard. Since monsters are often packed together even if all three chains, I can't see it. But after over half an hour at it, I am fairly certain that if the projectiles hit different monsters then they will chain. If they hit the same, I have no clue. This is the first time I have attempted to test anything, so take my findings with lots of salt. Anyone manage to get a difinitive result on this?

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Strill escreveu:

Sigh... disappointing. If Ice Spear chains and doesn't keep its second form it's in all likelihood not going to chain again because it pierces. Bleh. So many interesting combinations that don't work together.

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Orphius escreveu:

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Strill escreveu:

Sigh... disappointing. If Ice Spear chains and doesn't keep its second form it's in all likelihood not going to chain again because it pierces. Bleh. So many interesting combinations that don't work together.

Huh? Maybe I'm reading you're post wrong, but in my testing, if always bounced three times like it said on the gem as long as it bounced the first time, So it hits A in its second form, and it will bounce to B, C and D even if it doesn't manage to shift into its second form. I actually found it's a rather nice combo with LMP to hit enemies further back, killing them quickly then letting it bounce forward into the pack in front of my witch. The extra distance travelled means higher chance of going into second form during the bounce. Not to mention it looks cool.

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Strill escreveu:

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Orphius escreveu:

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Strill escreveu:

Sigh... disappointing. If Ice Spear chains and doesn't keep its second form it's in all likelihood not going to chain again because it pierces. Bleh. So many interesting combinations that don't work together.

Huh? Maybe I'm reading you're post wrong, but in my testing, if always bounced three times like it said on the gem as long as it bounced the first time, So it hits A in its second form, and it will bounce to B, C and D even if it doesn't manage to shift into its second form. I actually found it's a rather nice combo with LMP to hit enemies further back, killing them quickly then letting it bounce forward into the pack in front of my witch. The extra distance travelled means higher chance of going into second form during the bounce. Not to mention it looks cool.

I was told here that if a projectile pierces, it cannot chain or fork. So chained/forked Ice Spears lose their piercing even though they do not keep their crit bonus?

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