Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - Why didn't GGG make Conc Effect work with auras, instead of increasing all costs? - Fórum

" JIIX escreveu: An alternative (that would be a straight buff) is to keep the same potency with 40% mana reserved and conc effect would boost you beyond what you have now. That would be overpowered. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.	Postado por ScrotieMcB#2697 em 14 de nov. de 2013 09:55:59 Citar este Post
" JIIX escreveu: +1 from me. More choices and options. On the subject of the significant nerf to the initial potential of the gem: I think the pros (40% mana reserved) outweigth the cons (less potency). An alternative (that would be a straight buff) is to keep the same potency with 40% mana reserved and conc effect would boost you beyond what you have now. I strongly disagree on both points. I've earlier in this thread explained how reducing the costs suffers far more opportunity loss than gain to builds that specialize into auras (via practically -forcing- us to waste 4+ more gem slots to do the exact same thing as before; and in some places giving irreparable losses, such as to the auras on prism guardain; where sacrificing a slot is -seriously- not an option) Scrotie, at this point in the morning I'm much too tired to translate that blob of math. I'll commentate on it when I've had my tea :P A scion may be born of the rich, and as such hold more opportunity... but a scion will never be able to appreciate the finer beauty of those less fortunate. Última edição por Epicly_Curious#6220 em 14 de nov. de 2013 10:13:36	Postado por Epicly_Curious#6220 em 14 de nov. de 2013 10:13:26 Citar este Post
" ScrotieMcB escreveu: Let's take your opinion seriously, without discounting mine. Let's try balancing around both power per % reserved, and by power per socket used. So let's say x*1.69=1.33. Then x = 1.33/1.69 = 0.787. That's balancing by sockets used, not % reserved. With % reserved, for 60%->40%, x = 64/60/1.69, x=0.631. For 40%->30%, x=48/40/1.69, x=0.71. The geometric mean of those two numbers is 0.705 for 60%->40%, and 0.748 for 40%->30%. This gives a kind of average between the two methods of balance, factoring both methods into consideration. Under this kind of compromise, a level 20 Grace without Conc would provide 1423 Evasion base, which means a Conc Grace would provide 2404 Evasion. That's 37.56 Evasion per % reserved, versus the old 33.6 per % reserved, for a net 11.8% increase in terms of balance per % reserved. In terms of balance per socket, let's just pretend you could run two Grace auras for a second (in essence, assuming that the other aura ran is equally as good as Grace), which means you'd get 4806 Evasion for 4 sockets where you used to get 4032 Evasion for 3 sockets. That's 1344 Evasion per socket before, 1201.5 Evasion per socket after, which means new->old would be an net 11.8% increase. After this adjustment, I believe that even from your perspective, things would be fair. You'd essentially be trading away 11.8% more power per socket for 11.8% more power per % reserved. Note: Grace example in OP edited to reflect the ideas in this post. That sounds good. I'd prefer to keep the 60% reservation personally, because a build that can handle the requisite values receives no buff from a lower reservation; but I also see what is gained here as being substantial enough to bite my tongue from further commentary; and let auras also become more accessible to the masses via the lowered base costs. A scion may be born of the rich, and as such hold more opportunity... but a scion will never be able to appreciate the finer beauty of those less fortunate.	Postado por Epicly_Curious#6220 em 14 de nov. de 2013 10:39:12 Citar este Post
So IMO, auras should all be 45%, and Reduced Mana Cost shouldn't be a mana multiplier effect (should instead be a less mana effect that increases by level). Whether there are changes after that? Don't care. I just find the prevalnce of reduced mana being only used on auras ridiculous. IGN - PlutoChthon, Talvathir	Postado por Autocthon#5515 em 14 de nov. de 2013 10:42:25 Citar este Post
I use it on my LA characters too... A scion may be born of the rich, and as such hold more opportunity... but a scion will never be able to appreciate the finer beauty of those less fortunate.	Postado por Epicly_Curious#6220 em 14 de nov. de 2013 10:44:30 Citar este Post