GGGs reasoning on not making a SFL?

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TheAnuhart escreveu:

"The reason why they feel so amazing to loot and collect is because they have value to other players."

The reason items feel so amazing to loot and collect for me, is because they have value to me, to my characters, to future possible builds. Never, ever does an item imply value in 'gold' from someone else. What Chris says here is true for him, for some players, but not for all. I was amazed at his generalisation and exclusion.

Was a sad statement to read for myself to be sure.Not the first of its kind by Chris however.

Much to be expected though.

It's apparent Chris' ARPG time in D2 was greatly spent in the D2 trade bubble.It does make me question certain devs love for ARPGs of the past (that they've confessed to) because of this statement,as D2 was the only ARPG that remotely had a trade mentality attached (albeit small).

Anywho,we should still be thankfull for peek into their world of playing ARPGs.


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SF player here.

I'm quite content to play in the normal leagues (I always play the 4mth leagues) as a self-imposed-SF-player. Would a SFL league be nice? Sure... but I don't think it warrants the time or money that GGG would need to invest to pull it off and maintain it.

Eventually, I'm hoping the paid leagues will emerge and thats when SF players can follow up on their desire to have a SFL.

Also, let it be known that increasing droprates for SF players was something brought forward by a minority of players. Please stop treating this as an overwhelming reason to oppose SF in various ways. It wouldnt happen anyway, and shouldnt happen. A couple of people mentioned it and everyone jumps all over it :(
In reality, there is a very small percent of SF players who aren't happy with drops etc.

GGG have said they don't want to do a SFL. Lets respect their decision.

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Temper escreveu:

Was a sad statement to read for myself to be sure.Not the first of its kind by Chris however.

Much to be expected though.

It's apparent Chris' ARPG time in D2 was greatly spent in the D2 trade bubble.It does make me question certain devs love for ARPGs of the past (that they've confessed to) because of this statement,as D2 was the only ARPG that remotely had a trade mentality attached (albeit small).

Anywho,we should still be thankfull for peek into their world of playing ARPGs.


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This is why I always say PoE is the spiritual successor of D2jsp, not D2.

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DirkAustin escreveu:

You know its not wiped after 4 month, you can play SC/HC you know.

Calling them dumpster leagues doesnt make it so, its like calling a small dick a big dick, doesnt mean its true no matter how many times you say it.

Yes, I know. I wonder if over the years more and more people will just stick to their parent leagues once their temp leagues' time runs out, not wanting to bother anymore with the trade hamster wheel.

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TheAnuhart escreveu:

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Temper escreveu:

Was a sad statement to read for myself to be sure.Not the first of its kind by Chris however.

Much to be expected though.

It's apparent Chris' ARPG time in D2 was greatly spent in the D2 trade bubble.It does make me question certain devs love for ARPGs of the past (that they've confessed to) because of this statement,as D2 was the only ARPG that remotely had a trade mentality attached (albeit small).

Anywho,we should still be thankfull for peek into their world of playing ARPGs.


=)

This is why I always say PoE is the spiritual successor of D2jsp, not D2.

holy... yah RMT in this game is bad but not as bad as it was in d2

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The thing is that GGG doesn't want to increase drop rates

Don't include rng haters in player group who want a self found league please.
SFL is about no more " trading simulator " for more " hardcore arpg ".

Peace

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JeIlySickLe escreveu:

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CantripN escreveu:

Chris thinks we don't need one to play SF. He sees no point.

Diablo 3 is now self found only and it's... fun?

It's more than just fun - it's a blast actually.

D3 turned me into a POE fanatic. Then I hit level 70 about 20-25 times on various characters and understood how RNG this game is.

Then D3:ROS turned me back into a D3 fanatic.

Hopefully GGG gets off their ass and understands exactly what ARPGs are meant to offer. That is - a fun experience with a non-RNG gated end game, where you actually feel progression with your 10 hours of time invested.

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Temper escreveu:

It's apparent Chris' ARPG time in D2 was greatly spent in the D2 trade bubble.It does make me question certain devs love for ARPGs of the past (that they've confessed to) because of this statement,as D2 was the only ARPG that remotely had a trade mentality attached (albeit small).

D2s trade mentality was a player driven thing, though. The game was designed as a solid solo experience, and it delivered. It offered a nice loot progression with target RNG, and it never expected you to have some piece of godly gear to keep going forward. Yet, if you did find some godly gear, you got to feel godly. It felt like breaking the game, and it was awesome.