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Evyx escreveu:
If I run Hatred+HOA+Enlighten, is it better to run COH+HOT+AM or COH+HOI+AM?

Assuming I'm running SA+Chain+AFD+PPAD+ICD for clearing maps / TS+GMP+PTL+WED+PPAD for bosses/Aztiri.


I prefer HoI for coh. It's AOE contributes sensibly to overall clear speed, and it can easily be leveled to 20. On the other hand, HoT will give better cursing overall.

@Lambo94: there will be a full tree respec so you can start now if you stick to standard. If you want to play the new league, do whatever you want ;)
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Última edição por Panini_aux_olives#1967 em 30 de nov de 2015 05:14:33
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You wrote that Ice Shot is a great main attack skill, if you can efford a 5l/6l, what I am planning in the new Talisman league. Also Ice Shot greatly benefits from pierce, as there will be more explosions, so then would be drillneck a must have? (Budget is NOT important now, i'm farming a lot) How important becomes "increased elemental damage wich weapons", if you use Ice Shot?
I am also very interested in how laggy Ice Shot is versus bigger packs. I have quite a good computer, but I still face some hard laggs time and time again, my Rainbownuker sometimes even kicks me out of the game.
I hate lagging contend due to too many colours/explosions, specially while playin' in a party, what i do most of the time.

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Crafting an Harbinger

Very good guide.
What i'd like to know now, would you recommend at the begin of a new league (when currency is rare), to craft only ONE stat on an Harbinger and then use a Regal? Multicrafting three Mods seems in my eyes an easier way to get a very good bow in a short period of time, than alterating the bow untill it gets 2 goods stats, using regal (needin' a lot of Luck) and then exalting/multicrafting ?


Thanks for help!
for ice shot: Weapon elemental damage support is a BiS support. And anyway, it's a good idea to have a red slot, it provides a adaptability (can be switch for ll, lgoh, added fire, etc.).

For WeD on rest on gear, it's not that important. Since ice shot convert physical to cold, you'd better increase your physical damage first. So flat physical on jewelry is more important than wed.

for crafting: the most important stats for damage are the flat physical roll and %increased physical damage. Since both are prefixes, you can't have both of them on a blue item, so yes, regal after you get one of them, and hope for a prefix.
For multimod crafting you ideally need all 3 suffixes free, because multi mod use one suffix and you want crit chance and attack speed or crit multi, and a last prefix.
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When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch?
If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch.
Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart...
The crafting guide is a bit outdated, isn't it?
Since you can't always craft "the other" %physical mod
anymore?

The only way now seems to be to roll a high %phys/acc,
either alone or with another good mod, then regal etc
and craft %phys.
Última edição por Cr4v3n#1308 em 1 de dez de 2015 08:38:50
Check Saranghaeyo's guide listed in my signature for something more up to date.

edit: typo
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When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch?
If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch.
Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart...
Última edição por Panini_aux_olives#1967 em 1 de dez de 2015 10:54:55
Just posting to say SA+Chain+AFD+ICS+PPAD has been working insanely well for me. I die less and I clear maps way faster than if I use TS+GMP. And my TS+GMP are 20/20, so that says something. Thanks for the tip panini, and congrats on your new "valued poster" title! Never noticed it before so I assume you just got it :).

EDIT: also I think I'll run HOT because I doubt ill need HOI to increase my clear speed. Everything dies in 1 hit when I solo. When I party with my mate (just 1 person) I tend to die a lot more and clear much slower. Meh.
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Última edição por Evyx#3874 em 1 de dez de 2015 13:04:23
Thanks :) And yes, it's from yesterday.

As for the helard, use the one your prefer. This is just a matter of preference.
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When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch?
If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch.
Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart...
I guess Q20 pierce would not be required for Drillneck, right?
Hi, im using lioneye plus drillneck, im now in serious dilemma in choosing what to link for my puncture, I have some questions here.

Is slower projectile better than ppad because it dosent slow down the attack speed?

If the answer is yes then does this combination look good?

Puncture,slower projectile, faster attack,phy to lightning,crit dmg and power charge on crit. Or maybe remove faster attack for wed?

But then in the other hand , puncture,crit dmg, pcoc,fa,slower projectile,ppad seems ok too

But now i think that pcoc,crit dmg,ptl,puncture,wed and sp is the best.

Your thoughts?
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Última edição por Incessant#0517 em 2 de dez de 2015 06:54:34
On puncture, use both ppad and slower proj as they both massively increase base hit damage, which is what we want to increase the bleed damage (which is also increased by slower proj btw). The other good supports are increased critical strike in and critical damage.
So best 5L is Puncture, PPAD, Slower Proj, ICS or PCoC, ICD. It is the setup that will give the highest physical damage, and thus the highest bleed.

phys to lightning: very very bad idea as it halves the physical damage (and thus bleed damage)
pcoc : why not.
wed: added fire will do better. WED is a better choice than added fire only for skill that convert 50% or more physical damage to elemental (lightning arrow, ice shot, burning arrow, use of P2L support on other skills).


@flyaway_kong: q20 pierce now gives 10% increase projectile damage instead of additional pierce chance as before 2.0. So it's always a welcomed bonus. It's equivalent to a minor damage node.
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When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch?
If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch.
Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart...
Última edição por Panini_aux_olives#1967 em 2 de dez de 2015 07:17:38

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