[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Hey guys, i tried Uber and got totally rekt! Wanted to Ask if pure Phys it better than Ptl+Wed? Since Monsters seem to have a really high elementalresistance..

Also how to keep up Frenzy Charges at Atziri? Do i have to use Frenzy?

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ddangreifer escreveu:

Hey guys, i tried Uber and got totally rekt! Wanted to Ask if pure Phys it better than Ptl+Wed? Since Monsters seem to have a really high elementalresistance..

Also how to keep up Frenzy Charges at Atziri? Do i have to use Frenzy?

There is a lot to say about how to do Uber Atziri but yes: PTL + WED is not the optimal setup for Uber Atziri or any endgame content for that matter. ICS + AFD is better.

You cannot really keep frenzy charges up without frenzy in drawn out fights. This is why a lot of endgame builds do not rely on frenzy charges.

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Frankenberry escreveu:

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ddangreifer escreveu:

Hey guys, i tried Uber and got totally rekt! Wanted to Ask if pure Phys it better than Ptl+Wed? Since Monsters seem to have a really high elementalresistance..

Also how to keep up Frenzy Charges at Atziri? Do i have to use Frenzy?

There is a lot to say about how to do Uber Atziri but yes: PTL + WED is not the optimal setup for Uber Atziri or any endgame content for that matter. ICS + AFD is better.

You cannot really keep frenzy charges up without frenzy in drawn out fights. This is why a lot of endgame builds do not rely on frenzy charges.

yes but frenzy offers just too much dmg to play without the charges, so id go with frenzy for splitphases as single target? is pretty hard to aim tho imo..

oh and is ics better than icd? im at 82%cc with power charges

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ddangreifer escreveu:

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Frankenberry escreveu:

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ddangreifer escreveu:

Hey guys, i tried Uber and got totally rekt! Wanted to Ask if pure Phys it better than Ptl+Wed? Since Monsters seem to have a really high elementalresistance..

Also how to keep up Frenzy Charges at Atziri? Do i have to use Frenzy?

There is a lot to say about how to do Uber Atziri but yes: PTL + WED is not the optimal setup for Uber Atziri or any endgame content for that matter. ICS + AFD is better.

You cannot really keep frenzy charges up without frenzy in drawn out fights. This is why a lot of endgame builds do not rely on frenzy charges.

yes but frenzy offers just too much dmg to play without the charges, so id go with frenzy for splitphases as single target? is pretty hard to aim tho imo..

oh and is ics better than icd? im at 82%cc with power charges

You won't have power charges either. It does not work in drawn out endgame game content :)

Heavy usage of frenzy charges is good for speed map-clearing or low-tier beginner / start league characters.

You may try using frenzy in splitphase. I would suggest using puncture (maybe with 6L chin sol in offhand) + Blast Rain.

Not saying it is impossible to do uber atziri with herald of thunder / ice + curse on hit + assassins mark + frenzy as single target skill but it is certainly not optimal. Herald of Ash > Assassins mark generator setup in endgame.

Hey guys which tornado shot enchantment would be better you think? +1 projectile or 25% damage? I am leaning towards +1 projectile but not sure which one would be better :)

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Aedre32 escreveu:

Hey guys which tornado shot enchantment would be better you think? +1 projectile or 25% damage? I am leaning towards +1 projectile but not sure which one would be better :)

+1 projectile for sure :) It is flat out better in the wast majority of situations.

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Frankenberry escreveu:

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Aedre32 escreveu:

Hey guys which tornado shot enchantment would be better you think? +1 projectile or 25% damage? I am leaning towards +1 projectile but not sure which one would be better :)

+1 projectile for sure :) It is flat out better in the wast majority of situations.

Thanks for quick reply berry! :D It will be better in single target situations too right? Since 1 more arrow means more damage?

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Aedre32 escreveu:

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Frankenberry escreveu:

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Aedre32 escreveu:

Hey guys which tornado shot enchantment would be better you think? +1 projectile or 25% damage? I am leaning towards +1 projectile but not sure which one would be better :)

+1 projectile for sure :) It is flat out better in the wast majority of situations.

Thanks for quick reply berry! :D It will be better in single target situations too right? Since 1 more arrow means more damage?

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Tornado_Shot

"No target can be hit by more than one subprojectile released in this manner."

No - but you increase the chance that a target will be hit in the first place + much better AoE.

Hi,
I actually run with herald of ice + ash + arctic armor (herald of ice for generate power charge) and single target is blast rain (atziri = frenzy + power charge on hit).
Is here any better combo to generate power charge? And bonus question: i will switch WED+ PTL for AFD and ICS its realy better end game? better dmg or just better..?

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Satrew escreveu:

Hi,
I actually run with herald of ice + ash + arctic armor (herald of ice for generate power charge) and single target is blast rain (atziri = frenzy + power charge on hit).
Is here any better combo to generate power charge? And bonus question: i will switch WED+ PTL for AFD and ICS its realy better end game? better dmg or just better..?

PTL + WED = higher tooltip dps but a lot of your damage is elemental damage.
AFD + ICS = Slightly lower tooltip dps but you deal higher physical damage which is mitigated to a lower extend. Physical damage (and chaos damage) > elemental damage.

This goes for all endgame content.