[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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_Saranghaeyo_ escreveu:

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tatarjj escreveu:

I decided to try out puncture-trap, and to my surprise it seems to be a truly pathetic skill. I could attack the boss with regular attack and do much more damage. That is, if the trap even damages the boss at all. I think I'm doing something wrong.

Currently, to evaluate puncture-trap, I have lvl 20, 20% quality puncture linked to trap+trap damage+point blank. The support gems are all around level 11 ish, currently, but that shouldn't make enough of a difference to make this skill not totally suck ass (which it does). I could put it in a 5-link but I don't want to screw up the socket colors for the 5-link Blast Rain I use (which requires three off-color linked sockets) on such a crappy skill.

WTF am I doing wrong?!?! I was fighting Oak (or whatever the guy is that does leap slam) on a lvl 75 Zana daily... very easy for this character, normally. Not with puncture-trap! The traps wouldn't even TRIGGER 90% of the time, even when I threw them in the guy's face. Like for the first two minutes I just ran around in circles trying to make a trap trigger at all. He'd stand right beside them and they would do NOTHING. Finally, when I got one to trigger, it took of a grand total of like 5-10% off of his life. After about 3 or 4 minutes of this crap, I just gave up and tornado-shotted him down in three or four seconds (my unbuffed TS does 32k dps... with buffs it's between 38k and 90k).

I also tried puncture-trap on an armory map, another ridiculously easy map for this character's level and gear, but I wanted to evaluate the puncture trap skill. So, I get the boss, and start trying to use puncture trap on him. He's the blackguard guy with the big energy shield. Well, anyway, again, it made an easy boss look hard. He's sitting there, dropping a fairly weak firestorm down on me, but he's actually out-dpsing my puncture traps. So, again, I just blew him up with my regular skills and moved on.

I am using a legacy Reach of the Council, so my traps shoot more than one arrow. Could the trap damage be bugged and getting divided amongst the arrows or something? Yes, I'm "reaching" for an answer, but I can't understand how traps could be so highly touted yet suck so very badly, so the best conclusion I can come to is that my weapon is somehow bugged or- most likely- that I'm doing something wrong.

Puncture is dead. Was only truly good against Atziri.

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Casia escreveu:

Base poison is: 8% per second, for 2 seconds of combined physical and chaos damage.
So, without anything else its 16% of physical/chaos.
+duration then of course, increases that. every 1 second, is another 8%. Skill effect duration, poison duration, etc.
It double dips. Most elemental, etc do not do this.
But, poison gets projectile damage, chaos damage, attack damage, twice. so, when you as a bow user are running 400% projectile damage..
your 25k/hit physical/chaos Tornado shot hits 4 times. applying 4 stacks of poison. 100k direct hit, and 4 10k/s over 2 second poisons. one hit then did 100k direct, and 80k poison over 2s. Without any specific investment in poison, besides simply applying it.

When it comes to poison, projectile damage increases the base hit, then increases the poison that is scaling off the base hit in the first place. (this also applies to aoe, chaos, and a few others.)

Compared to say, 10% of your physical as added fire. 25k/hit phys TS. 27.5k with fire. 110k. I'll even give you weapon elemental damage. 59% more wed. 28975/hit- 116k.

Reach is the goto, becuase its a high pure physical damage bow. and hte extra arrows lets you remove GMP, which has the less proj damage mod.

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skuadak escreveu:

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SyZ escreveu:

Ok all, I'm now 92 and this is my updated gear:

I have ~ 10E worth of currency without liquidating everything.

What should my next upgrade be? How hard should I be pushing leveling versus mapping for drops? I have cleared all T12s, some T13s, no T14s. I mainly just play solo, and sometimes group for daily rotations.

Thanks!

itt, quiver is bad, particulary that 8% which block bench made mod (up to 27%)

ott, out of curiosity, did you divine your uniques or bought like that?

edit: ofc I don't say you should buy 10ex worth quiver

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Amperiex escreveu:

Doing a blast rain only pathfinder atm. So far it's working out pretty well actualy. Especially wiht the incraesed aoe gem the clearing area is insane. I got a 390pdps bow so that helps killing. I use a kaom's heart as chest piece. At 5.7k life atm and after a few more levels i'll probably reach around 6k life.

My setup is
AOE
BR > FA > WED > PTL > Inc Crit Strikes > Inc AOE

For Single target I switch the aoe gem for conc effect.

Got the 75% blast rain enchant on hat so really good dps both aoe and single target. It might not be as fast at clearing as lightning arrow + chain but with the huge aoe i'm clearing really fast.

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Silahsor escreveu:

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ressiv escreveu:

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Silahsor escreveu:

What do you expect from Raider, that Pathfinder fails to do? Pathfinder seems to be the power house at the moment. If you have a certain goal in your mind, maybe I can provide some feedback.

Constant uptime of buffs, not getting screwed if you run out of flasks on bosses, more defensive options and still use defensive flasks (just wihout the big buff from Pathfinder). Would go Phasing + Onslaught.

Phasing is a very nice thing to have - if you are a melee character. Although still useful, it will offer limited value for a bow user.

My personal experience with a bow-Raider is Slaughter + Chase provides most benefit. Chase is actually the obvious choice. Slaughter makes your life a lot easier - especially on the frenzy charge generation front. I typically enter the map, shoot 4-5 Frenzy arrows and forget about charges till the map boss. I feel like Slaughter provides much more clear speed compared to Veil.

On the defensive front, do not expect much from Raider compared to Pathfinder. Hard hitting single targets will always be problematic.