[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Im just wondering cause Im sticking with maligaro's gloves for a long time, are there any better unique DPS gloves for Death's Opus with Tornado Shot? Someone suggested me Wind of Changes, but im not sure if projectile dmg and speed outcomes high crits

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Om3nov escreveu:

Im just wondering cause Im sticking with maligaro's gloves for a long time, are there any better unique DPS gloves for Death's Opus with Tornado Shot? Someone suggested me Wind of Changes, but im not sure if projectile dmg and speed outcomes high crits

Use pathofbuilder to calculate it which gloves are the best.

Also take into account the opportunity cost of using an item in a specific item slot. Also take into account which build you are using. Crit multiplier doesn't scale as well with Death's Opus as it does with other bows because Death's Opus already has a high crit multiplier (Not saying crit multi is bad stat with Death's Opus - just that i scales better with other bows).

In this case you use Maligaro Gloves. They give you crit chance, multiplier and and some attack speed but 0 hp, resist and less attack speed than a rare pair of gloves would.

So imagine you had a rare pair with 2 resists, life and crafted 12% attack speed (maybe even with a flat damage modifier) instead of Maligaro's. This means you would need less resistance on your other items. So for instance instead of having resistance on your rings you would have them on your gloves. So now you have the freedom to utilize rings with worse defensive stats and better offensive stats. So the rare pair of gloves might not be as high dps as the Maligaro gloves but if you take into account more offensive rings the rare gloves might actually be better dps.

The concept of opportunity cost goes for all item slots. It's worth thinking carefully about :)

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Frankenberry escreveu:

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Om3nov escreveu:

Im just wondering cause Im sticking with maligaro's gloves for a long time, are there any better unique DPS gloves for Death's Opus with Tornado Shot? Someone suggested me Wind of Changes, but im not sure if projectile dmg and speed outcomes high crits

Use pathofbuilder to calculate it which gloves are the best.

Also take into account the opportunity cost of using an item in a specific item slot. Also take into account which build you are using. Crit multiplier doesn't scale as well with Death's Opus as it does with other bows because Death's Opus already has a high crit multiplier (Not saying crit multi is bad stat with Death's Opus - just that i scales better with other bows).

In this case you use Maligaro Gloves. They give you crit chance, multiplier and and some attack speed but 0 hp, resist and less attack speed than a rare pair of gloves would.

So imagine you had a rare pair with 2 resists, life and crafted 12% attack speed (maybe even with a flat damage modifier) instead of Maligaro's. This means you would need less resistance on your other items. So for instance instead of having resistance on your rings you would have them on your gloves. So now you have the freedom to utilize rings with worse defensive stats and better offensive stats. So the rare pair of gloves might not be as high dps as the Maligaro gloves but if you take into account more offensive rings the rare gloves might actually be better dps.

The concept of opportunity cost goes for all item slots. It's worth thinking carefully about :)

I just bought this rare pair of gloves, I lost 1k (9% speed not 12%) of dps but now I may buy cheaper steel ring cuase these without 2 resistances are cheaper, double flat dmg, crit chance and attack speed should do the thing and give me much more :)

The links for passive skilltrees are not working, please could somebody fix them?

They throws an error saying the passive skill tree is an older version.

thx for all!

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PedrinhoPaulada escreveu:

The links for passive skilltrees are not working, please could somebody fix them?

They throws an error saying the passive skill tree is an older version.

thx for all!

Hm... not sure what your problem is there, because the default Passive tree link is working fine for me.


However, just in case I'll post a version of that tree on PoE Planner:


Important: Please note that this tree requires a Lioneye's Fall Jewel: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lioneye%27s_Fall
If you do not have a Lioneye's Fall Jewel then do not take Soul Raker (or the other claw skills).

Note also that I've modified this version of the tree slightly. I've forgone the two extra minor Life nodes in the Thick Skin cluster and instead taken the two extra minor nodes in the Revenge of the Hunted cluster. This yields the same amount of Life, but also grants an additional 16% boost to Evasion.

An alternative build that does not use the Soul Raker cluster would look something like this:

can someone lend me a helping hand? I am running to major survivability issues in tier 10+ maps where some crazy rare / boss would 1 shot me.
here are my gears:


Passive tree:


I was originally doing LA build but now I'm considering switching to tornado.
Also, should I re-color my armor so I can replace critical chance support with pierce support?

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twnori escreveu:

can someone lend me a helping hand? I am running to major survivability issues in tier 10+ maps where some crazy rare / boss would 1 shot me.
here are my gears:

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Passive tree:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAABeAx4FtQX5CC4IiQzyD6sRLxR1Fr8XlhmKGY4fQSF2I9Mj9iSLJP0mlSo4KlsrCjB8MfoylDfUOdQ-z0M2Sn1Nkk4qUUdS7FVLVvpbr11oYeJirGegbIxvJ3BSdf1293fXePl59n11ft1_An8rf4CEb4TFhs6HdonTjDaNfY25jb-PYJUFlwaaaprxmyabjZu1naqet6Cfpcum4KfUtMW1SLvjvebBM8FJwuzDOsSiyNzKqc3q037UI9RC2cbjn-dU6NbpmOsU62PtP-2D8W39bv4d_rr-yP8Q_94=?accountName=twnori&characterName=Cakefield

I was originally doing LA build but now I'm considering switching to tornado.
Also, should I re-color my armor so I can replace critical chance support with pierce support?

Your life is way to low. Start by respeccing into something like this. It doesn’t have to be exactly like this but the passive tree I am linking you has 161% which is also quite low.
Try something like this: http://poeurl.com/bjZZ (remember to use Lioneye's Fall Jewel above Acrobatics to make the claw nodes worth it).

You gloves are very bad. They are meant for a physical / chaos dealing build. You are almost purely elemental so your poison damage is almost non-existant. So all they really do is making it harder for you to sustain Frenzy Charges. Likewise your boots are quite bad and you should get rid of them.

Replace them with a rare pair of gloves and boots.

Try to get a new amulet. Flat phys / crit multi should be what you are looking for. WED is also nice and of course get it on a good base (like Agate) with life on it (or room for +44 life enchant).

+increased life on your jewels is also good. If you get 7% on all 3 that's another 21% life right there.

Herald of Ice is more reliable for generating Power Charges imho. Give it a go. If you don’t like it switch to Thunder. Also consider switching out Assassins Mark for Poachers Mark if you want Frenzy Charges instead of Power Charges.

Enduring Cry does not work with CWDT since CWDT casts spells and Enduring Cry is not a spell but a Warcry. Use Increased Duration Instead. Also lower the lvl of your CWDT and immortal call to lvl 1 and lvl 3 (or some other low lvl combination).

Don't switch pierce for ICS. The damage will be higher but your AoE clearspeed will be much lower with only 50% pierce.

Finally get a Quicksilver flask. You gotta grind those maps faster and currently your movement speed is way to low without that flask. And get Uber Lab for those last 2 points. Same thing really - more attack speed and movement speed = more clearspeed = more loot and currency :)

Thanks! What kind of stats should I be looking for on rare gloves and boots? Also, I refunded some of my damage nodes and extended my tree to the scion health pool. I hope that's a smart decision..

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twnori escreveu:

Thanks! What kind of stats should I be looking for on rare gloves and boots? Also, I refunded some of my damage nodes and extended my tree to the scion health pool. I hope that's a smart decision..

It can be but not the way you did it. Try the specc I gave you :)

If not go like this:

http://poeurl.com/bj0f (no VP so either go for Atziri's Acuity or live without instant leech which can be hard with too much elemental damage - Especially with Lioneye's Glare)

http://poeurl.com/bj0g is another way to go if you want the scion life wheel.

Gloves: Room for attack speed enchant, Life. Besides that accuracy and resistance is great. Also flat added damage is nice but not needed.

Boots: Movement speed 30% (or 25% if the boots have other great stats), life and as much resistance as possible.

Overcapping resistance is actually a good thing since it makes you resistance capped in maps with elemental weakness, so don't be afraid to go above 135 resistance.

Hi,

Im now lvl 51,

All My resistances are almost at 75%, would you prioritize Max Life nodes or get some more resistance nodes?


Thanks,