Best Crit Sword Build? Scaeva Unique Sword

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adghar escreveu:

I find that hilarious if true because I swear GGG called this a bug and declared it fixed in a patch note. Well, maybe I dreamed that up, but if I didn't, I get this image of GGG devs scrambling to patch up this hole in their code where, in a game like D3, it could be seen as totally intentional.

Btw, I consider things like ICSS and Assassin base crit as part of the "local modifier" which is why I said "sum of all local modifiers." I think. It's been a while since last post. I don't know if that's technically true (i.e. if GGG has an internally defined category of local vs global and base crit other than from weapon counts as global) but for all intents and purposes (i.e. calculations) it is fine for me to think of it that way.

Is there a source of reference with the patch or notes? I want to make a build with the sword I don't want it to be patched half way through the build.

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naderni escreveu:

Is there a source of reference with the patch or notes? I want to make a build with the sword I don't want it to be patched half way through the build.

I had to set my Google-Fu to Level 2 for this one:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1676002/page/41#p13418219

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Mark_GGG escreveu:

Technically this would fall under your "something unique about this mod" category, in that this mod is bugged. It's applying multiplicatively, rather than correctly as an additive modifier. This has been fixed locally and will be in a future patch.

So glad that I did not hallucinate that!

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adghar escreveu:

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naderni escreveu:

Is there a source of reference with the patch or notes? I want to make a build with the sword I don't want it to be patched half way through the build.

I had to set my Google-Fu to Level 2 for this one:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1676002/page/41#p13418219

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Mark_GGG escreveu:

Technically this would fall under your "something unique about this mod" category, in that this mod is bugged. It's applying multiplicatively, rather than correctly as an additive modifier. This has been fixed locally and will be in a future patch.

So glad that I did not hallucinate that!

Thank you very much for this man. Looks like indeed this modifier is intended to be global but still bugged currently.

Well, RIP my desire to make a build with this sword. It's not like it is an OP or broken sword even with 100% local increased cri mod.

Please do not fix this. Swords desperately need a way to enable crit or any semblance of viability outside of herpa derpa mirrored corsairs.

It's not that good, with most crit build sword build use abyssus, and it love APS, so any fast rapier with 8% crit 1.6 APS and 230-300 dps will be better than scaeva.

It's a really good starting sword for fresh league and maybe some strange coc with lacerate ?

its like a binos as it is, its a really nice sword. If they made the increased crit global and not local it would be absolute shit and ud never use it, basically.


I dunno about that quote tho, mark talks about additive vs multiplicative, Im presuming he means in regards to it being global or local, but it doesnt necessarily mean that right? Was it once working multiplicatively with the local crit rather than being additive with the local crit? Cause that would still fit, theres 2 local crit mods on that sword as it stands which I believe are additive with each other. It just seems odd, cause the right terminology should be local or global surely? Not additive or multiplicative, even though you can think of base crit vs increased crit in those terms it doesnt seem like an entirely correct way to talk about local vs global crit chance.

Well, Snorkle_uk, the context is a question that asks about local vs global (and cites Daresso's Passion as a contrasting example). So Mark_GGG is pretty clearly implying it should work like D. Passion, i.e. global.

Maybe they could just embrace the "bug" and add the keyword "local" to Scaeva's mod! There are plenty of painters, I think maybe Bob Ross was one, who said something along the lines that sometimes mistakes are the greatest inspirations in art.

As it is worded on the item, I see it as local. Crit mods on weapons that are meant globally always include the word global (% increased global crit chance/multi).

This sword has a base crit chance of 5*(1+1.05) = 10.25% when both crit rolls are max (25% and 80%). This puts it above anything possible for a rare sword, and almost on par with The Goddess Scorned.

This makes it very easy to cap crit chance. If you have three green sockets (for 30% global crit multi) and a nice phys roll it is a great sword. I can reccomend for something like crit Frost Blades in main hand.

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macsizzles escreveu:

As it is worded on the item, I see it as local. Crit mods on weapons that are meant globally always include the word global (% increased global crit chance/multi).

This is a *conditional* crit mod, though, which makes it different from the other normal mods.

Widowmaker's "100% increased Critical Strike Chance against Enemies on Full Life" is global, not local.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1625474

Eclipse Solaris' "(120 to 140)% increased Critical Strike Chance against Blinded Enemies" is also global; it would be kind of useless otherwise.

The Harvest says "3% increased Global Critical Strike Chance per Level".

Afaict, no other unique weapons have conditional critical strike chance mods.

The Harvest is the one that is the most similar to Scaeva, so that fact that that specifically says 'global' is a good argument for Scaeva being local. But I think your claim of 'always' is not entirely accurate!