[3.4] ELE CLAW INQUISITOR | Farm Shaper on 3Link! + UberElder, UberAtziri | very Budget friendly!

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epidx83 escreveu:

Oh, now its 3 slots > 1 slot. gotchya....

Now? Go read previous messages again, because clearly you are a little slow. It is about min-maxing on a fixed budget, and if the price is the same yea 3 slots = 1. And it's also funny how you tried to act smart about jewels, but you have all of them pure flat with no multipliers...

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hubs1996 escreveu:

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epidx83 escreveu:

Oh, now its 3 slots > 1 slot. gotchya....

Now? Go read previous messages again, because clearly you are a little slow. It is about min-maxing on a fixed budget, and if the price is the same yea 3 slots = 1. And it's also funny how you tried to act smart about jewels, but you have all of them pure flat with no multipliers...

Ill guarantee ive spent a fraction on my gear as you did yours, and I have shaper down so who gives a shit? Point being said, ONE PERFECT DPS OPAL that would cost a MIRROR + THE FEE is NOT better then a 15ex boot with 2 gems. IS THAT EASY ENOUGH for your dense brain to understand?

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Morehei escreveu:

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neptune81 escreveu:

LOL sry mate but yea, I read this stuff as the OP ruled out. Still, it doesnt answer the question properly cause I got the HoI at max level (20/20) and this doesnt seem to work. But yea thanks for your kindly reaction to see a noob in me instead of answer my question ;)

Well, my bad I didnt check your gem setup.
I removed it personnally, wasnt happy with the proc rate of the buffs ; it was working but very rarely, or maybe I wasnt checking my buffs often enough ?
That still doesnt answer your question though :p

One poor alternative is to use an abyss jewel with % chance to get onslaught on kill, I suspect it will work better.

Nice thanks, thats what I had in mind as well, just to remove this setup cause HoI doesnt kill as often (in mine case, almost never) as I hoped for.

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Warranx escreveu:

Well I DID check your gem setup, and you DO have "Elemental Focus" in your Molten Strike setup just like the the FAQ says NOT to do if you want innervate shows up. As for seeing icons, I'm not sure if this affects onslaught regularly, but it might be the "Flask Icons" option in the UI. Also if your molten strike is the one doing the killing blow (as opposed to the shatter effect of HoI) you'll never get onslaught from it.

Cool you checked my gem setup, but in the description the OP clearly said that HoI NEEDS to KILL mobs to proc Innervate and Onslaught - the problem is not my Ele Focus but that HoI isnt simply strong enough or fast enough to kill by itself. So I think you may need to check the Faqs again mate.

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epidx83 escreveu:

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hubs1996 escreveu:

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epidx83 escreveu:

Oh, now its 3 slots > 1 slot. gotchya....

Now? Go read previous messages again, because clearly you are a little slow. It is about min-maxing on a fixed budget, and if the price is the same yea 3 slots = 1. And it's also funny how you tried to act smart about jewels, but you have all of them pure flat with no multipliers...

Ill guarantee ive spent a fraction on my gear as you did yours, and I have shaper down so who gives a shit? Point being said, ONE PERFECT DPS OPAL that would cost a MIRROR + THE FEE is NOT better then a 15ex boot with 2 gems. IS THAT EASY ENOUGH for your dense brain to understand?

LMAO. You have terrible reading skills.

1. Who gives a fuck about your 5 rips shaper? How did that go? 80 c entry for 1 c drop? You are pro. Your own build? Shaper viable?

2. You are comparing flat edps on boots to multiplier on a ring in a vacuum with out considering claw and other multipliers and flat edps ON 8 OTHER JEWELS, who gives a fuck about 2 in boots. But I guess you can't even buy 1 jewel with a multiplier so maybe that's one more thing you don't understand. There was never a discussion about perfect opal > 2 socket bubonic with perfect murderous. Stop troling and stfu. I wrote it already for you, but again your reading skills have failed you. Try again come on: It is about min-maxing on a fixed budget. And here I'll quote you, because you are hilarious

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epidx83 escreveu:

IS THAT EASY ENOUGH for your dense brain to understand?

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GornoDD escreveu:

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fabi06 escreveu:

One Question,
is this build HC Viable?
and where does the lifeleech with swords come from?
AND :D Whats kind of better, molten strike or bladeflurry?

1. Yes its hardcore viable. I had this conformed by quite a few users and some made it to 100. Most pretty much invested a little more into life than the original guide.

2. From the Life leech nodes just below Vaal Pact. There is a dedicated section with an adjusted passive tree in the guide.

3. Molten Strike is far better at the moment. It might get nerfed in the future or maybe not, well see.

Anyone know where those HC dudes posts are?.. I'm searching but cant seem to find haha

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Destreaga escreveu:

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GornoDD escreveu:

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fabi06 escreveu:

One Question,
is this build HC Viable?
and where does the lifeleech with swords come from?
AND :D Whats kind of better, molten strike or bladeflurry?

1. Yes its hardcore viable. I had this conformed by quite a few users and some made it to 100. Most pretty much invested a little more into life than the original guide.

2. From the Life leech nodes just below Vaal Pact. There is a dedicated section with an adjusted passive tree in the guide.

3. Molten Strike is far better at the moment. It might get nerfed in the future or maybe not, well see.

Anyone know where those HC dudes posts are?.. I'm searching but cant seem to find haha

I dont know the exact page numbers. But if you dont think its tanky enough for you, there are plenty of rather amazing almost unkillable HC builds. I dont know if there are any with this kind of damage output. This build OFC is not death-proof, far from it. But amongst the super-high dps builds, I think its amongst the safest.

I made it to level 90 in SC without dying a single time. Its just about how safe you play. People play much less tanky builds in HC like ChinSol Trappers etc to great success.

Ultimately it comes down to game knowledge what keeps you alive. What content you can do and what you cant do.

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GornoDD escreveu:

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Destreaga escreveu:

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GornoDD escreveu:

1. Yes its hardcore viable. I had this conformed by quite a few users and some made it to 100. Most pretty much invested a little more into life than the original guide.

2. From the Life leech nodes just below Vaal Pact. There is a dedicated section with an adjusted passive tree in the guide.

3. Molten Strike is far better at the moment. It might get nerfed in the future or maybe not, well see.

Anyone know where those HC dudes posts are?.. I'm searching but cant seem to find haha

I dont know the exact page numbers. But if you dont think its tanky enough for you, there are plenty of rather amazing almost unkillable HC builds. I dont know if there are any with this kind of damage output. This build OFC is not death-proof, far from it. But amongst the super-high dps builds, I think its amongst the safest.

I made it to level 90 in SC without dying a single time. Its just about how safe you play. People play much less tanky builds in HC like ChinSol Trappers etc to great success.

Ultimately it comes down to game knowledge what keeps you alive. What content you can do and what you cant do.

Thx man I appreciate your reply, I came up with my own HC build I think I'll try, what do you think of it? https://pastebin.com/vZ76tTTM (I replaced your shield tho just cause its so expensive) But the tree when I compare it to yours makes sense for hardcore, though I am not sure how much dmg your actually losing for a the survivability. Although I take Iron grip to make up for it, I could even go IR with it and drop the evasion all together.. not sure exactly.

Anyway if you get the chance to compare it please let me know!

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neptune81 escreveu:

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Warranx escreveu:

Well I DID check your gem setup, and you DO have "Elemental Focus" in your Molten Strike setup just like the the FAQ says NOT to do if you want innervate shows up. As for seeing icons, I'm not sure if this affects onslaught regularly, but it might be the "Flask Icons" option in the UI. Also if your molten strike is the one doing the killing blow (as opposed to the shatter effect of HoI) you'll never get onslaught from it.

Cool you checked my gem setup, but in the description the OP clearly said that HoI NEEDS to KILL mobs to proc Innervate and Onslaught - the problem is not my Ele Focus but that HoI isnt simply strong enough or fast enough to kill by itself. So I think you may need to check the Faqs again mate.

Here's the thing about HoI killing things...you need to shatter mobs in order for HoI to proc the shatter effect (which is the only thing that HoI can use to kill monsters the flat ice damage doesn't count). If you have elemental focus in the main skill, it can't freeze monsters and therefore you're not going shatter monsters. If you do not shatter monsters, HoI will NOT be killing anything. That is why you can't use elemental focus in your main skill if you want HoI to proc onslaught and inervate... I'm not trying dis you, I'm trying to correct misinformation.

Please do me a favor and just swap out elemental focus for any other blue dps gem for 1 map (increase crit, crit damage, added light are all solid choices and I’m not sure what would be best for your particular setup). This will allow you to freeze and shatter monsters enabling herald of ice to kill things. Just do this one quick test and tell me if you get your onslaught in that map. (As long as the map doesn’t have like 90% chance to avoid ailments)

is it worth to use it oni goroshi in that build ?