[3.10] Akumas Sunder - THE League Starter Budget - Can do all content.

Great guide man! Really helped me learn the game. Any suggestions for what I should look to get next? I feel like I need more life but maybe I'm totally wrong.

And what about swapping Arctic Armour over Herald of Ash?

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okazaki92 escreveu:

And what about swapping Arctic Armour over Herald of Ash?

You can do this, but you will need to switch out Leap Slam in your axe for it, as we need the green socket in the eclipse.

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Eotfofyl13 escreveu:

Great guide man! Really helped me learn the game. Any suggestions for what I should look to get next? I feel like I need more life but maybe I'm totally wrong.

The same the last 10 pages of this question, so I will keep it very short.

Wrong Gloves - The effects, as far as I know do not stack and will get overwritten. I do not know which has higher priority, if it goes full bad, the gloves overwrite our ascendancy.

You miss a lot of gem setups

Missing Hemophilia node

Missing 4th ascendancy

Switch Axe after your gloves to something 380+ or 400+ pdps if possible

Hey.

This was my first ever PoE season and i used this build.
Only thing i didn't finish was Shaper / Uber Elder / Hall of Grandmasters - but my only shaper try was quite a while ago and i was in experienced.

Pretty confident i would slay him now as i know what to dodge.

My Gear, can you take a look of what I might have done wrong, as i tried to improve my gear form ur suggestions with little to no knowledge?

How do i post passive skill tree for you to check?^^

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EUDiaBoLuS escreveu:

Hey.

This was my first ever PoE season and i used this build.
Only thing i didn't finish was Shaper / Uber Elder / Hall of Grandmasters - but my only shaper try was quite a while ago and i was in experienced.

Pretty confident i would slay him now as i know what to dodge.

My Gear, can you take a look of what I might have done wrong, as i tried to improve my gear form ur suggestions with little to no knowledge?

How do i post passive skill tree for you to check?^^

Spoiler

Gear looks okay. You might wanna switch gemsetups on your weapons so the Leap Slam gets the bonus from your offhand. Also since you don't use Prismatic anymore you can try to play with Herald of Ash instead of Arctic Armor.

Bloodgrip doesn't do much for our build and only makes big sense with a slayer, because they are constantly leeching, we do not leech when on full life and thus only leech faster which is, in my eyes, not that interesting.

Le Heup of All is okay while leveling but endgame I'd rather take a proper ring/steel ring with phys and attackspeed or any funny curse on hit, which frees up slots on one of the weapons for some funny engame possibilities.

About the tree: If you changed it, I won't be able to help you much with that. The tree is extremely optimized for the mainsetup I did and it would only make sense to change it if you got some badass jewels that cost an internet or two. Else you won't get much out of it.

I didn't change anything on the tree, i was just curious if my idea of going for some jewel spots after completing ur suggested tree was the right one (max life%, attack speed in those mostly).

While there is def. better solutions than carnage heart (as it doesnt really help the leech to my understanding) and le heup of all, i rly found it hard to get enough intelligence to max concentrated effect support, so i searched for high all attribute / int items that still provide me with good rest stats :/

A curse on hit? doesn't it override enfeeble? if it doesn't, should i try vulnerablity?

also, why do we need arctic armor only when we use prismatic sword? isn't the damage reduction a key part of the build? (at least i thought so). i don't really understand what changed for me when i swapped the sword defense wise.

lastly, what do you mean by "blood grip isn't useful"? what is blood grip LUL.

Oh and about gem setup: i mainly use whirling blades for movement, leap slap is basically only for jumping ledges up/down for me :O i just followed ur suggested gem setup.


TY for the advice though.

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EUDiaBoLuS escreveu:

I didn't change anything on the tree, i was just curious if my idea of going for some jewel spots after completing ur suggested tree was the right one (max life%, attack speed in those mostly).

While there is def. better solutions than carnage heart (as it doesnt really help the leech to my understanding) and le heup of all, i rly found it hard to get enough intelligence to max concentrated effect support, so i searched for high all attribute / int items that still provide me with good rest stats :/

A curse on hit? doesn't it override enfeeble? if it doesn't, should i try vulnerablity?

also, why do we need arctic armor only when we use prismatic sword? isn't the damage reduction a key part of the build? (at least i thought so). i don't really understand what changed for me when i swapped the sword defense wise.

lastly, what do you mean by "blood grip isn't useful"? what is blood grip LUL.

Oh and about gem setup: i mainly use whirling blades for movement, leap slap is basically only for jumping ledges up/down for me :O i just followed ur suggested gem setup.


TY for the advice though.

Bloodgrip = Carnage Heart - Mixed them up.
You only leech faster with it, not more and since the leech is faster you are quicker on full life and the bonus while leeching is off. So you don't get that much out of it.

Arctic Armor is mostly because it is the best green slot you can put in. It helps in survivability but is not a must. With a different weapon as prismatic eclipse you can swap it.

Le Heup because of int? You can have up to 55 int on each ring and amulet. So you can spread the INT on multiple items so you need less per item.

Our enfeeble is a defense option. It makes enemies weaker. But if you are confident you can have poachers mark curse ring. With that you free up the mana leech node + the node before. This frees up for something different. The other two curses on rings are not helping us though. If you use that you can't use enfeeble. Or you can still use it and have enemies cursed with it that attack like from behind or further away and be still weakened until you get to them.

Whirling blades is the fastest, but when you have a faster attacks at hand, why not use it? If you can jump even faster up a ledge out of something dangerous, why not ?

About your weapon swap. Just open up path of building and test both weapons. You can see the difference in damage very clearly.

Thanks!

will roll this build next season again (as i did a molten strike inqisitor in flashback, but i prefered this build.

Will use herald of ash instead of arctic armor for sure (understood now that we want green sockets on prismatic ofc), maybe try out poachers mark instead of enfeeble for shaper (to optimize damage, everything 1 shots anyway) :)

Maybe i replace loreweave with belly of the beast and build around that.


I would really appreciate if you would give us hints on what high end multi EX items we should invest in (maybe heart of xoph, headhunter?)

Last question:
Is there 1 or 2 gems i can replace in the sunder buildup for better boss killing damage? or even replace sunder with something else single target focusing that uses about the same support runes?

ty <3

Hello,

I just updated the guide to 3.4
Technically the guide is exactly the same. We lose a bit AoE range that will not be noticable much thanks to our attackspeed. Damage stays the very same, so if you killed uber elder before, you can do that again, no worries.

The only nerf that hit us is the Block-Ascendancy that just makes Spellblock = Block. Which means if you have more spell block as block it will even be set down. Doesn't make that much sense, except you can fully concentrate on Block itself. We have, with my example crap gear, 10% less spell block and that is the only thing. The rest is same.

So keep sundering. Will update the trees to 3.4 as soon as they go live.
But you can plan with 3.3 or 3.2 trees already as the tree is exactly the same for us, no changes at all.

kind regards,
Akuma

edit: Of course I will try to add the new Vaal Ancestral Warchief to the build if it makes more sense than standard.

Hello!

Good news!
The new Herald of Purity benefits us. For now I only stated it as an option but in numbers it is better than what we sacrifice.

Until now we played with a CwdT + Enfeeble and Arctic Armor. This makes enemies hurt us less which is nice. But the new Herald offers us not only more damage but also extra Minions that could work as distraction, which is very nice and probably a better Buffer than the old tactic.

Instead of Arctic Armor we just take a Portal Gem or if you can afford a Vaal Breach for more hits and life leech in boss fights.

The new setup gives us around 50k more damage with my example crap gear, so the better your gear, the higher the bonus! HYPE TRAIN TIME!

kind regards,
Akuma