[3.7] Ahfack's Crimson Cyclone | Shaper FULL Life Kill Vid | 100% Pure Phys | All Content | PoBs

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Ciaphas01 escreveu:

Ahfack, thanks for the thread. Couple quick questions, mostly related to our good friend the shaper sword.

- You mention not using Starforge because you want 100% bleed uptime and because the Shock from Starforge won't add up on e.g. Shaper. But with Cyclone, even with the bleed stacking keystone, won't the bleeding be a relatively tiny amount of DPS? And wouldn't the shock from Starforge progressively build on itself from previous, smaller shocks (assuming I understand how Shock works now correctly)?

- If I did want to use Starforge, your tree is still pretty usable just shifting Axe nodes over to Sword nodes instead, I assume? Or would I want to design/follow another tree?

- Any thoughts on how this compares in terms of scalability and overall damage to a Ngamahu's Flame Slayer?

- Boxers or briefs?

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Ciaphas01 escreveu:

Ahfack, thanks for the thread. Couple quick questions, mostly related to our good friend the shaper sword.

- You mention not using Starforge because you want 100% bleed uptime and because the Shock from Starforge won't add up on e.g. Shaper. But with Cyclone, even with the bleed stacking keystone, won't the bleeding be a relatively tiny amount of DPS? And wouldn't the shock from Starforge progressively build on itself from previous, smaller shocks (assuming I understand how Shock works now correctly)?

- If I did want to use Starforge, your tree is still pretty usable just shifting Axe nodes over to Sword nodes instead, I assume? Or would I want to design/follow another tree?

- Any thoughts on how this compares in terms of scalability and overall damage to a Ngamahu's Flame Slayer?

- Boxers or briefs?

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Ciaphas01 escreveu:

Ahfack, thanks for the thread. Couple quick questions, mostly related to our good friend the shaper sword.

- You mention not using Starforge because you want 100% bleed uptime and because the Shock from Starforge won't add up on e.g. Shaper. But with Cyclone, even with the bleed stacking keystone, won't the bleeding be a relatively tiny amount of DPS? And wouldn't the shock from Starforge progressively build on itself from previous, smaller shocks (assuming I understand how Shock works now correctly)?

- If I did want to use Starforge, your tree is still pretty usable just shifting Axe nodes over to Sword nodes instead, I assume? Or would I want to design/follow another tree?

- Any thoughts on how this compares in terms of scalability and overall damage to a Ngamahu's Flame Slayer?

- Boxers or briefs?

I can't speak for Ahfack nor his build since I don't play it, which is to say already quite good and arguably the strongest phys Cyclone variant these days. But I can answer from the perspective of a Starforge Cycloner whom've farmed Shaper and Guardians with it, for quite a lot. Before I answer, I'll just preface it by saying that while I use Starforge mostly due to it's higher cost-performance ratio, for min-maxing, Disfavor beats Starforge any day, for various reasons which might be different than some might think.


- Starforge shocks are irrelevant in Cyclone, I've tried to make it work before from going crit to stacking shock chance jewels like a madman. It does not work. Cyclone hits are too small to make it work on endgame bosses where shocks are relevant, yes you will shock, but it does little to nothing to add to your overall DPS, if you want to shock, just bring VLT.
- This is where my opinion differs from Ahfack. I prefer BM+Brutality setup with Starforge, and Ash+Hatred setup with Disfavor. This is mostly a matter of preference imo, but to answer your question, yes, you can just swap Cleaving+Slaughter to Razor+Blade.
- Despite both using Cyclone, Ngamahu is a whole different build with a slightly different playstyle. Cyclone deals direct damage instantly on the Cyclone hits. Ngamahu deals slightly delayed damage. On moderately good gear I'd say Ngamahu has higher DPS potential. Minmaxed however, who knows, my bet is on normal Cyclone.
- Does none counts?

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Ciaphas01 escreveu:

Cool, thanks for the responses. A Starforge is far more affordable for me right now, so I might go that route and start farming for a Disfavour.

One more question, what auras would a Starforge Cycloner even run since Hatred and Herald of Ash etc are pretty useless? Haste and AA maybe? Blaspheme Vulnerability and AA? Or just screw it and run Blood Magic?

(also i would have added commando but i always wear jeans and commando+jeans=D: )

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MotorCityScrubs escreveu:

What's up man? Just a quick update,

Level 84 right now... having absolutely no issues w/ T15 maps, get one shotted sometimes but that's really unavoidable unless I switch from Kaoms to a Belly w/ an Immortal Call setup, even then I'll probably still get one shotted if I whirl into a group of porcupines. Also can't really run uber labs consistently because I'm used to having a character that moves really really quick but having a TON of regen; traps are a huge mental block for me in this game.
Anyways, finding it harder and harder to upgrade my gear while keeping capped resists. Feel free to take a look at my gear;

No insanity gloves. I don't know if because it's a league and no one is crafting insanity gloves but there don't seem to be any and I've already gone through about 3-4 ex trying to craft my own (completely new to crafting, can find a few videos on crafting but nothing specific to what I'm trying to do. Maybe there's a cheaper method?)

Can't run the Doedre's Ring because it'll put me well under capped resistances and not enough intel to run decent curses anyways. I know my boots/gloves/rings all need to be upgraded, possibly even my flasks but I keep hitting roadblocks trying to craft my own stuff, after 6-7ex, I'm beginning to believe it's a fools errand and that I should just wait until someone eventually puts a piece I'm looking for up for trade.

Boots aren't horrible I don't think but then again, I've thought that I had great gear before and it turned out to be less than average.

*Also curious (not going to try it myself) on how you began crafting your Vaal Axe to get beastly like that? I've found a few but I don't know if you started it from scratch or found a rare one w/ decent mods on it already.