Just a quick question. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to use Concentrated Effect over Faster Attacks for higher overall damage or what?
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Postado porEnforc3R#4848em 28 de mar. de 2018 14:05:35
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frankthetankkk escreveu:
This is because you are taking FOUR leech nodes lol....The implication here is that you do not take the mana leech mode, and if you really need mana leech you get it on gear. Obviously if you choose to take four leech nodes pathing that why becomes pretty pointless. However, if you do not take the mana leech node, like I have been saying, you GAIN 20% proj damage.
You are so funny! You keep making claims about the efficiency of the tree and yet you haven't even looked at the tree this user posted.
HE TAKES 4 LEECH NODES!
You comment on a tree that you haven't even looked at. Here, have a look at it for the first time. Then maybe you can make an informed comment.
https://i.imgur.com/zjNXiy0.jpg
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Aias_o_Telamonios escreveu:
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frankthetankkk escreveu:
This is because you are taking FOUR leech nodes lol....The implication here is that you do not take the mana leech mode, and if you really need mana leech you get it on gear. Obviously if you choose to take four leech nodes pathing that why becomes pretty pointless. However, if you do not take the mana leech node, like I have been saying, you GAIN 20% proj damage.
You are so funny! You keep making claims about the efficiency of the tree and yet you haven't even looked at the tree this user posted.
HE TAKES 4 LEECH NODES!
You comment on a tree that you haven't even looked at. Here, have a look at it for the first time. Then maybe you can make an informed comment.
https://i.imgur.com/zjNXiy0.jpg
You're right he does. It is nonetheless more efficient though, by one point, and if you opt not to take the mana leech node which I would argue you don't need, you get two points.
Última edição por frankthetankkk#6707 em 28 de mar. de 2018 16:10:51
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Postado porfrankthetankkk#6707em 28 de mar. de 2018 16:10:06
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Enforc3R escreveu:
Just a quick question. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to use Concentrated Effect over Faster Attacks for higher overall damage or what?
Yes. Some people like FA for clearing, but even then I think Conc is better overall.
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Postado porfrankthetankkk#6707em 28 de mar. de 2018 16:13:38
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One quick note: you can save 1 passive point on the Tectonic tree by pathing behind the jewel socket instead (next to the axe wheel). This path can be taken on Molten Strike and does not change points allocated.
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Postado porsortitus#2808em 28 de mar. de 2018 16:31:40
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frankthetankkk escreveu:
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Aias_o_Telamonios escreveu:
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frankthetankkk escreveu:
This is because you are taking FOUR leech nodes lol....The implication here is that you do not take the mana leech mode, and if you really need mana leech you get it on gear. Obviously if you choose to take four leech nodes pathing that why becomes pretty pointless. However, if you do not take the mana leech node, like I have been saying, you GAIN 20% proj damage.
You are so funny! You keep making claims about the efficiency of the tree and yet you haven't even looked at the tree this user posted.
HE TAKES 4 LEECH NODES!
You comment on a tree that you haven't even looked at. Here, have a look at it for the first time. Then maybe you can make an informed comment.
https://i.imgur.com/zjNXiy0.jpg
You're right he does. It is nonetheless more efficient though, by one point, and if you opt not to take the mana leech node which I would argue you don't need, you get two points.
As I have said 3 times already you need to get to level 96 in order to get everything with his tree. It's only better if you go that high. Otherwise you need to leave out something because you're forced to get extra nodes in the Fury bolts cluster. I really don't know how to say this more clearly. Maybe you don't want to understand it because it spoils your argument.
Also you can't leave out mana leech and claim that makes the tree more efficient. You need to get the same features in both trees for them to be comparable. Otherwise you can start removing things like life or damage and claim that you can get those in your gear. This is utterly pointless. Only compare trees with the same features.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
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Aias_o_Telamonios escreveu:
As I have said 3 times already you need to get to level 96 in order to get everything with his tree. It's only better if you go that high. Otherwise you need to leave out something because you're forced to get extra nodes in the Fury bolts cluster. I really don't know how to say this more clearly. Maybe you don't want to understand it because it spoils your argument.
Also you can't leave out mana leech and claim that makes the tree more efficient. You need to get the same features in both trees for them to be comparable. Otherwise you can start removing things like life or damage and claim that you can get those in your gear. This is utterly pointless. Only compare trees with the same features.
No one was talking about what level you've gotta get to....Pathing that way is straight up better, end of story. I path that way, LiftingNerd pathed that way in his MS build. At the end of the day though, do whatever the fuck you want.
One piece of advice I can give you regardless of what you believe about the above argument, is that you are pathing inefficiently in your Ascendency. The added area of affect from the endurance charges is a pretty decent DPS loss, and you would be much better off pathing downward to the defensive nodes.
Última edição por frankthetankkk#6707 em 28 de mar. de 2018 17:42:36
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Postado porfrankthetankkk#6707em 28 de mar. de 2018 17:31:53
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frankthetankkk escreveu:
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Aias_o_Telamonios escreveu:
As I have said 3 times already you need to get to level 96 in order to get everything with his tree. It's only better if you go that high. Otherwise you need to leave out something because you're forced to get extra nodes in the Fury bolts cluster. I really don't know how to say this more clearly. Maybe you don't want to understand it because it spoils your argument.
Also you can't leave out mana leech and claim that makes the tree more efficient. You need to get the same features in both trees for them to be comparable. Otherwise you can start removing things like life or damage and claim that you can get those in your gear. This is utterly pointless. Only compare trees with the same features.
No one was talking about what level you've gotta get to....Pathing that way is straight up better, end of story. I path that way, LiftingNerd pathed that way in his MS build. At the end of the day though, do whatever the fuck you want.
One piece of advice I can give you regardless of what you believe about the above argument, is that you are pathing inefficiently in your Ascendency. The added area of affect from the endurance charges is a pretty decent DPS loss, and you would be much better off pathing downward to the defensive nodes.
I've been talking about level requirements from the beginning. [Removed by Support]
I've given specific examples with numbers. You've given nothing but theories. And now that you've lost the argument you start cursing.
Relax dude, it's just a game.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521 Última edição por Blank_GGG#0000 em 30 de mar. de 2018 13:48:52
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Aias_o_Telamonios escreveu:
I've been talking about level requirements from the beginning. [Removed by Support]
I've given specific examples with numbers. You've given nothing but theories. And now that you've lost the argument you start cursing.
Relax dude, it's just a game.
Haha, that's what I was sayin. Do you baby, if you think that's the way to go. He clearly thinks his way is cool, and it is, you were the one who originally got all up in arms bro, relax.
Your Ascendancy choices are definitely not efficient, however.
What you should be doing as Jugg is take more Endurance Charge nodes, and take Unrelenting. Unyielding is practically worthless if you are playing MS, and is probably even detrimental.
Última edição por frankthetankkk#6707 em 28 de mar. de 2018 20:12:32
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Postado porfrankthetankkk#6707em 28 de mar. de 2018 20:00:47
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frankthetankkk escreveu:
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Aias_o_Telamonios escreveu:
I've been talking about level requirements from the beginning. Maybe English is too difficult for you.
I've given specific examples with numbers. You've given nothing but theories. And now that you've lost the argument you start cursing.
Relax dude, it's just a game.
Haha, that's what I was sayin. Do you baby, if you think that's the way to go. He clearly thinks his way is cool, and it is, you were the one who originally got all up in arms bro, relax.
Your Ascendancy choices are definitely not efficient, however.
What you should be doing as Jugg is take more Endurance Charge nodes, and take Unrelenting. Unyielding is practically worthless if you are playing MS, and is probably even detrimental.
No man, not up in arms. Not swearing either like you. Also not interested in your opinion on what a Juggernaut is.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519
Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
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