[3.2] Abyss Shripper feat. Chin Sol - Raider TS Barrage / 6k+ Life 3.8M Shaper DPS / Uber Elder Down

Mind if I ask what you would upgrade next? Feeling pretty good about my character, sitting at 3.7m barrage DPS against Shaper, but I want to try fighting Uber Elder soon and not sure what to upgrade next.

Gear:

Guys please assist what is wrong with my char, DPS is not even close to what it should be

here is my pastebin

https://pastebin.com/yu6KEALD

in my character tab - Anihhillator

Thank you in advance

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blekotacz escreveu:

Nice build, leveling is rly smooth, bosses dont have a chance. I made some adjustements (deadeye) and maybe some different gems but the basic is the same and now i managed to kill Uber Elder (with Windripper, no Chin soil, and with TS mainly), so thumbs up for this build :)

Grats on the Uber Elder kill.

I'm currently playing Deadeye too. Do you prefer the "Ricochet" ascendancy to "Fast and Deadly?"

Sorry for delay of responses.

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bestesthunterEU escreveu:

Managed to down uber elder! Boss fight was super fast(took 3 attempts RIP 3 ex) as mechanics took time to get used to.

I'm going to be stopping playing now as I have exams but will be selling all my gear if anyone is interested. Have some GG jewels and what not and at 97 I would be at 4.4mil dps(poB)

Grats on Uber elder kill.

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Hiwashi escreveu:

I haven't played PoE since Legacy League and I was about to quit this league too since the first 3 characters that I had made weren't that fun to play. I decided to try one more time, sold everything I had from those 3 character and decided to put it all towards a single character. After browsing the forum a bit I ended up deciding to try this build. I'm a fan of Bow Character in general and it looked capable of doing end game content and even transitioning in to MF later ( also something I always wanted to try but never got to it ).

Anyway, back to the point. I had about 10 EX and after spending some of it respecing my Tree and buying gear this is what I ended up with:

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POB: https://pastebin.com/YKvxjAWU

After mapping for the last 3 levels with the character, I've to say that it is absolutely incredible. I never played with Tornado Shot before and I always loved the shattering of Herald of Ice so playing this build is pure bliss.

However, now that started moving in to red maps it's starting to get a bit difficult again and I've died quite a few times. I entered Spider Forest level 83 with 80%, left level 83 with 20%.

Clearly I still have to improve a lot of things in my gear but the thing is, I'm quite low on money ( about 60 chaos ) and I'm not sure which slot it would be better for me to improve first.

Not sure how much it matters but my league goal at the moment is to complete my atlas ( 119/157 ) and then probably alternate between MF farming in low tier maps for The Doctor and doing Guardians so I can build wealth/experience to try out Uber Elder later on in the League.

Hi, great to hear you like it.
First, keep leveling increased duration gem! It will increase your vaal grace duration. You should turn on Vaal Grace whenever you feel risky such as Abyss, Breach, Boss fight.

It's been late so I am not sure how your budget changes. First thing to change seems like abyss jewels that misses life, quiver and amulet that misses crit multiplier. Particularly quiver with life, crit multiplier, and elemental damage wasnt pricey(no add arrow, I bought quiver at day5 for 15chaos iirc). Check out my budget gears example at day 5 and at day 7. I was able to complete 157/157 atlas and to take down most of end-game boss.

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Gold3h escreveu:

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Can you post your gears and passives or pob link? So I can look at it.

Sure. Here is my PoB link. I've made some major improvements since my post and I have no issues in up to T7's or T8's ish (maps). Haven't tried much higher. Still looking for advice though. :)

PoB link for my current stuffs: https://pastebin.com/nPMkqPSP

Let me know what works :)

Hey.
I've looked at your pob. First thing is you are wasting 2 points above Thick Skin(5 O'clock direction). I'd rather use the 2 points into Trickery > Blood Siphon > Coordination + 30 int node.

This will free you up from int requirement for Shroud.

In terms of skill gem, I highly recommend you use Vaal Grace in the place of Vaal haste. It's one of core defense of this build. Use whenever you feel dangerours.

For gears. I'd upgrade by this order : Quiver with crit multiplier (such as my budget at day 5) > 2 socket Tombfist > Shroud > and buying or crafting abyss jewels, because you said you need more dps.

How on earth are some of you guys sitting at like 2-3m dps for Barrage? I'm at about 200k. Nooooo idea how I'm supposed to be hitting a number like that?

Any suggestions welcome. My toon is available for viewing on my profile..

Thanks

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JerryVoy escreveu:

Hey, almost done with the build just need some better Jewels imo. Is there any way i could use aspect of the avian? Maybee link Anger + Herald to Enlighten?

Gear:

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I turned off herald of ice when I use aspect aura. When you feel your dps is enough, turning off herald is ok because we stack enough flat ele damage from jewels. But I like gore herald effect so much, I use herald of ice 99% of time I play.

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bestesthunterEU escreveu:

I'm realy trying to contemplate using deadeye instead, if I remove frenzy nodes and go fast and deadly, far shot, endless munitions and gathering winds I gain about 400k DPS even after turning off frenzy charges. Was wondering what can be done about elemental ailments

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hankinsohl escreveu:

You're going to be sacrificing something to cope with ailments: Cyclopean Coil, flasks, various other uniques...

I'm interested in OP's opinion about Deadeye.

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bestesthunterEU escreveu:

yea that's what I was thinking, I wish there was a good way to balance it. How important is elemental ailment resistance?

What I thought at the announcement of deadeye change is it looks great but misses elemental ailment immune.

If I need freeze immune(by going deadeye), we need to use 1 flask suffix for freeze/chill removal. This means I can't use "of warding"(curse immune) flask that cover elemental weakness, temporal chain, enfeeble, or vulnerability curse map modes. I heavily focus on mapping so I can't immagine me playing without of warding flask. That's why I keep playing as raider.

I've got many question on this topic so I will add this into FAQ section :)

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ulikkooo escreveu:

hello guys!!

is %90 hit chance enough for end game ? and how much crit chance re we need ?

Yes I did all contents with 90-91% hit chance. Crit chances are 60(TS)-80(Barrage) with Windripper.

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ashaze escreveu:

Hi Guys,

You should also consider champion as the option. The 20 more damage from taunted and 100% accuracy is a big one. And you gain alot of mitigation while sacrificing not that much damage at all.

Sounds intersting. Quick redistribution of my passive tree :
https://pastebin.com/1DhvSqp8

0.2M shaper dps loss, 19% lower movement speed but alot of mitigation from fortify and taunt. Seems good trade off if focus on better survivality.

But again, same problem as deadeye - no warding or sacrifice something else to use warding flask.

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Gold3h escreveu:

How on earth are some of you guys sitting at like 2-3m dps for Barrage? I'm at about 200k. Nooooo idea how I'm supposed to be hitting a number like that?

Any suggestions welcome. My toon is available for viewing on my profile..

Thanks

Looking at your char, there are plenty of upgrades.
Quiver, Flasks, 6link, Chin Sol for Barrage and I didn´t check jewels.
I am sitting on ~2.6mil dps with barrage currently. That´s with Deadeye not with Raider.

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derekc5475 escreveu:

My path of building doesn't work

Can someone show me the skill tree to 97?

Is your pob updated? It can be update issue.

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Gold3h escreveu:

So I have been working on mostly getting currency to upgrade my gear and gems. This is currently where I am at tree and gear wise.

PoB Link: https://pastebin.com/0xigBXDV

I barely get tickled in anything T10 map or under and melt/1-shot most mobs. Most reds are fine until I start going into T13's and up and some of the modifiers stack NOT in my odds. I run anything that doesn't have ele reflect.

Looking for any feedback on tree changes or gear changes. I need both survivability and damage but I am having fun and doing pretty good for myself.

Hi Gold3h again :)
Seems like similar issue I mentioned exists.

2 points wasted, no vaal grace, crit multi on quiver and amulet.

Plus, this is important - do not go physical reflect map.
Storm burst skill from lightpoacher have high base physical damage, you will die here and there. I tried physical to lightning but still die in phys ref map. It needs 90% conversion(for example, other build with 40% cold conversion from node + 50% phys to light) to survive in phys ref map.

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ashaze escreveu:

Opinion on Farruls fur?
I know its pricey but i finaly got it yesterday to try it and it is absolutely nuts.

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hankinsohl escreveu:

Farrul's Fur looks nice; I haven't tried to model it in POB though.

Are you able to get permanent uptime on Power/Frenzy charges with Farrul's?

Edit - Compared Farrul's against Shroud just now in POB. Shroud appears to give a lot more DPS but perhaps Farrul's is better for mapping? (more defense?)

I checked very little tweak (mostly same but only change body armour, gem, and one power charge node instead of frenzy charge to have up all time. Shaper dps decreases from 4.0m to 3.5m, life decreases from 6560 to 6296. This maybe because this build isn't optimized for Farrul's fur.

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tommywan2000 escreveu:

Hi,i want to ask you how to improve Survival rate
Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated
My current stuffs Link:https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/tommywan2000/characters

Hi I've looked at your character BestiaryTH

You are playing deadeye and has no mechanic to sustain frenzy charge in boss fight. Why do you use points in frenzy charge node? You should do something like this : https://pastebin.com/60zNF6MH

Phase Acrobatic really heps against spell-using monsters.

For items, try to get +life in every single rare items as I did in budget. High-life pool is necessary to avoid getting one-shotted. Also don't forget to use 1 murderous eye jewel in tombfist to get 10% more dmg.

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streej escreveu:

Do i won or lost?

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JerryVoy escreveu:

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streej escreveu:

Do i won or lost?

Thats really good but since you have allready so much dmg, i would rather have a HP roll instead.

I agree, +life mod is always nice to have. Sell it to dps lovers :)

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Qrafty escreveu:

Someone mind comparing this build to deadeye rare build -- https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2118193/page/1 - the owner of deadeye build claims it is best setup on all of forums so i am just curious which one of these builds comes out stronger as I am about to ascend and would like to choose one. Thanks and great job with build guide!

There is no such thing like the best build in my opinion. It's all about personal preference which build(skill, dps or defense, life) he or she likes.

I looked at the build few days ago, it's really interesting, nicely optimized. To simply compare, this shroud build have 4m shaper dps, 6.4k life, and higher spell dodge while the dex stacking build have 5m shaper dps, 5k life and base dodge. In short, this build have less dps but bit more defense. It's up to your choice.

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blekotacz escreveu:

Nice build, leveling is rly smooth, bosses dont have a chance. I made some adjustements (deadeye) and maybe some different gems but the basic is the same and now i managed to kill Uber Elder (with Windripper, no Chin soil, and with TS mainly), so thumbs up for this build :)

Here is my PoB:
https://pastebin.com/NuHgmgCP

Here my end gear:

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Thanks for reply :)

Great to hear you enjoy build. Gratz on your Uber Elder kill.

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Phizeek escreveu:

Mind if I ask what you would upgrade next? Feeling pretty good about my character, sitting at 3.7m barrage DPS against Shaper, but I want to try fighting Uber Elder soon and not sure what to upgrade next.

Gear:

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Hi, it seems like you are well-geared.

Boss fight is more about experience and skill. You will be better in the fight as you try more. For example, I managed to kill Uber Elder 1 death in second try as this build, better than first kill. Check this - https://youtu.be/QVlT2mNw5Kg where I had similar dps (3.8 or 3.9m) to yours.

What I've leared so far - Elder ice spear or Shaper ball did 5.5k ~ 5.9k damage without mitigation(this build doesnt have purity or fortify etc). So prepare 6k or higher life pool to survive even if you get hit by mistake.

I tried aspect of crab and spider. I like crab more because physical dot minor pantheon + crab aspect helps alot when you walk over physical dot area by elder and his spawn. So try to get spare belt and use aspect of crab instead of herald.

Plus you might want to swap into tornado shot because lightning arrow or ice shot + gmp doesnt shotgun against single target but TS does by secondary projectile. There isn't not much time to use barrage, I only used barrage when shaper using beam.

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Alexnenarus escreveu:

Guys please assist what is wrong with my char, DPS is not even close to what it should be

here is my pastebin

https://pastebin.com/yu6KEALD

in my character tab - Anihhillator

Thank you in advance

Hey.
Flask is important. Try to craft or buy the exact same flask setup as suggested.
Wtih your pob, flasks changes your shaper dps from 1.17m to 1.9m(with Chin Sol).

Next is to get 'increased elemental damage' in your rings and amulet.

Last is the jewels. critical chance is not recommended. Check out jewel section / budget gear section to see what mods are best for this build. all t2 or higher 3 mods jewel are enough.

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Gold3h escreveu:

How on earth are some of you guys sitting at like 2-3m dps for Barrage? I'm at about 200k. Nooooo idea how I'm supposed to be hitting a number like that?

Any suggestions welcome. My toon is available for viewing on my profile..

Thanks

3M is the PathofBuilding DPS for Barrage when "all projectiles" is selected, charges are up, and flasks are enabled; it's not a tooltip DPS figure.

200K tooltip is a bit below 3M "all projectiles" but it's not an order of magnitude off.