[3.6] Triple Herald Blade Vortex Elementalist

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avenuee escreveu:

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Ziiyo escreveu:

Cleared everything in the game so far BUT uber elder.

I have him spawned. Tried twice last night but got wrecked.

It is just super hard when you are melee AND have to charge up to 10 blades or else you feel like you are hitting with a wet noodle.

I have the damage for sure, guess its just about knowing the fight when it comes to BV.

Edit: still have some gear to go. I am getting my Yoke of Suffering soon. Was using a friends. Also need to purchase a BV helm enchant. Then I should be almost done besides the usual divines on gear.

TL:DR - This build can do everything in game damage wise, just need to learn some of the fights more.

You can buy cheap corrupted hrimsorrow's with +2 aoe or +1 if you buff your HoI or get +0,8% crit for socketed gems.
You can get rare boots with res and then get good jewels. Your jewels are easily upgradeable.
Weapons are ok but if you invest a little you should gain some good deeps.

Otherwise keep grinding and good luck =)

Thanks,

Agreed with the +1 socketed gems on sorrow as I feel it is better than the AoE or Crit corruption. I also agree that I need to upgrade my gems as they are pretty bad at the moment :)

Boots wise I am not looking for res or move speed as I whirl around all the time. I find that having a bigger life pool and not being able to be stunned OR slowed by shaper/uber elder or maps with slow effects is immeasurable. So will be keeping the boots but need a better role and wanting to get either pen or lightning damage enchant.

The Weapons are much better than they look as I a running a high crit build with multi.I did not want to follow the OP tree as I found it sub optimal for what I am wanting. These have netted me the most so far out of many weps with dual/tri extra added mods.

I see you use a shield. I was thinking of going shield for some more defenses.

Question:

How much of a quality of life is the BV helm enchant? I find that I worry about stacks more on end game bosses than getting out of the way at times.

Also I am wanting to get a yoke of suffering amulet instead of a multi extra damage one so that I can utilise the extra shock damage mode and so that I am guaranteed to shock.

With our 50% conversion to lightning, I am not sure as to how many times we shock or if we shock at all. As you know that we need a significant portion of damage to shock. At least with yolk you will always shock, so conversion isn't a problem.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Yoke_of_Suffering

- Cheers

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Thanks,

Agreed with the +1 socketed gems on sorrow as I feel it is better than the AoE or Crit corruption. I also agree that I need to upgrade my gems as they are pretty bad at the moment :)

Boots wise I am not looking for res or move speed as I whirl around all the time. I find that having a bigger life pool and not being able to be stunned OR slowed by shaper/uber elder or maps with slow effects is immeasurable. So will be keeping the boots but need a better role and wanting to get either pen or lightning damage enchant.

The Weapons are much better than they look as I a running a high crit build with multi.I did not want to follow the OP tree as I found it sub optimal for what I am wanting. These have netted me the most so far out of many weps with dual/tri extra added mods.

I see you use a shield. I was thinking of going shield for some more defenses.

Question:

How much of a quality of life is the BV helm enchant? I find that I worry about stacks more on end game bosses than getting out of the way at times.

Also I am wanting to get a yoke of suffering amulet instead of a multi extra damage one so that I can utilise the extra shock damage mode and so that I am guaranteed to shock.

Without our 50% conversion to lightning, I am not sure as to how many times we shock or if we shock at all. As you know that we need a significant portion of damage to shock. At least with yolk you will always shock, so conversion isn't a problem.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Yoke_of_Suffering

- Cheers

The reason why you should get res boots is that you're able to skip the resistances on jewels and get good damage ones and flat life.
The enchant on the Helmet is really good, its just QoL. You'll see the difference right away.
I really like shield for the defensive stat it offers(beeing able to get full offensive Jewels or skip it on Amulett for more deeps).
I clear maps really quick, thats why i prefer having a shield for the defensive part since the only thing i'd miss is defense.
I also went elemntal overload for mainly mapping, but this is personal choice and a crit version always wins in the end cause of the multipliers.

Otherwise im glad to help

Variety of questions, and if they're noobish, I apologize, started playing just a week ago.


1) What's the advantage in using efficacy? 16% duration only adds ~1 second but you're only gaining 20% more spell dmg. Or do the damage over time bonuses affect BV dmg as well?

2) Spell echo seems really great, but when I have that slotted and hold the ability down, it seem to skip the second cast. Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to not just hold the button down?

Curses:
3) Is it worth saving the 4 skill points going to whispers of doom by getting the 2nd curse effect on your ammy, or is there another affix/enchant on the ammy that's more impactful?

4) You mention aspect of the spider as something too good to pass up, but then you mention we should choose between enfeeble or elemental weakness. With warlords + 2 curse slots, wouldn't we have to choose between spider, enfeeble, or elemental weakness? And if so, what's the advantage in using spider over weakness or enfeeble, b/c those two curses seem way more powerful than 15% more dmg + reduced movement speed on mobs.

5) Wouldn't combining 3 curses between mark/ele weakness/enfeeble provide extreme benefits over whatever other affix you'd be seeing

6) How do you deal with hexproof mobs with regards to healing and/or manaa regen?

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avenuee escreveu:

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The reason why you should get res boots is that you're able to skip the resistances on jewels and get good damage ones and flat life.
The enchant on the Helmet is really good, its just QoL. You'll see the difference right away.
I really like shield for the defensive stat it offers(beeing able to get full offensive Jewels or skip it on Amulett for more deeps).
I clear maps really quick, thats why i prefer having a shield for the defensive part since the only thing i'd miss is defense.
I also went elemntal overload for mainly mapping, but this is personal choice and a crit version always wins in the end cause of the multipliers.

Otherwise im glad to help

Makes sense. Although if I went a shield I would have more than enough res to go full dps on jewels without needing res on boots. Which is a better option as you still get dps from a shield + life + res. Also allows you to focus on getting s single GG dagger rather than two (budget).

I see your character is setup for more farming than being a boss killer such as uber elder. I find the clear speed is great and never had a problem there.

Today I will try snag a +1 pair of gloves. Also grab a shield to see where I stand dps wise.

Have you ever tried Yolk of Suffering? was playing with it yesterday and the dps shoot through the roof due to shocking. Sheet dps doesnt show any changes of course.

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banecroft escreveu:

Variety of questions, and if they're noobish, I apologize, started playing just a week ago.


1) What's the advantage in using efficacy? 16% duration only adds ~1 second but you're only gaining 20% more spell dmg. Or do the damage over time bonuses affect BV dmg as well?

2) Spell echo seems really great, but when I have that slotted and hold the ability down, it seem to skip the second cast. Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to not just hold the button down?

Curses:
3) Is it worth saving the 4 skill points going to whispers of doom by getting the 2nd curse effect on your ammy, or is there another affix/enchant on the ammy that's more impactful?

4) You mention aspect of the spider as something too good to pass up, but then you mention we should choose between enfeeble or elemental weakness. With warlords + 2 curse slots, wouldn't we have to choose between spider, enfeeble, or elemental weakness? And if so, what's the advantage in using spider over weakness or enfeeble, b/c those two curses seem way more powerful than 15% more dmg + reduced movement speed on mobs.

5) Wouldn't combining 3 curses between mark/ele weakness/enfeeble provide extreme benefits over whatever other affix you'd be seeing

6) How do you deal with hexproof mobs with regards to healing and/or manaa regen?

1) efficacy just gives more dps and skill effect. To be very honest it is NOT needed. I personally dont use it and I run spell echo to ensure I have all my stacks up. if you have more dps but your stacks are always halved what is the point as your dps is gimped anyway. Also at this level of gear that I have. Anything besides Shaper,Uber Elder and Red Elder pretty much pop in one hit.

2) You just hold the button down. Every cast of BV casts 2 blades, so much faster to get stacks, easier for mapping. As stated above.

3) No Affix on an standard ammy i.e. all stats or dex, int etc would come close to a +1 curse. What are you trying to achieve. You do not need +1 curse if you are mapping as you kill everything under T16 without any effort at higher gear levels so you are just spreading thin. On bosses it would be nice but I would recommend not having to stretch too far around the tree as you are already going through 3 classes. Plus you run warlords ring, and using a blasphemy and curse is taking up too many sockets.If your running double curse on a CWDT or anything that isnt perma like gloves with + X curse on hit then your wasting your time. Its not reliable.

4) Aspects as far as I know are NOT curses. They are aspects that apply like a reserve i.e. Arctic armour. So you can run it and it doesnt effect the amount of curses you have.

5) Again 3 curses is overkill, you are mapping and you kill things in one shot why run two curses or even 3. Also if your running this too for bosses remember that they are NOT effected by curses like mobs in maps. They have a MUCH lower % curse effectiveness, meaning that what your tooltip says about the curses % it wont apply fully to a boss like Elder, Shaper etc

6) This isnt too bad. You have a health pot, which keeps you up easily. You also have decent mana regen due to being a witch. I use spell echo to get stacks up 6+ then I run into packs and move between packs very fast while keeping BV up. Dont jump into a pack with no stacks or a very low stack on a hexproof map as you could get blown up.

Anything else I missed give me a shout.

Hey there, managed to get a Warlord's Mark ring so I've moved it out of my Curse on Hit setup.

If I were to get an amulet with a +1 to Curse vaal implicit, what would be recommended for a 2nd curse? A friend of mine got Hrimsorrows with the Elemental Weakness on hit corruption, would those be good or are there better options?

Thanks!

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Azuriae escreveu:

Hey there, managed to get a Warlord's Mark ring so I've moved it out of my Curse on Hit setup.

If I were to get an amulet with a +1 to Curse vaal implicit, what would be recommended for a 2nd curse? A friend of mine got Hrimsorrows with the Elemental Weakness on hit corruption, would those be good or are there better options?

Thanks!

GZ on a great ring :)

Hey all,

I have a shield with aspect of spider level 20 skill. But I do not understand if I have to use another item now since I dropt MoM for def. Should I use the boots Fenumus' Spinnerets Assassin's Boots to get the benefit from the Aspect of Spider?

Thanks,
Kichi

Hi ! Im wondering what should be my next upgrade saved some currency not enough for inpulsa yet so should i buy Warlord's Ring and Mark of the Shaper? Better jewels? Weapons? Thanks for any advice.

If I will get ring with Warlords curse on hit its a good idea to put enfeeble on CWDT lvl 12 setup and remove the Curse on Hit setup to make room for 4th herald?

Or its needed becuase I would go oom before I will move to pack?