[3.5] (This is a bad league starter) Lancing Steel + Shattering Steel - Deadeye - League Starter

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givemelight escreveu:

Yep these for pure phy build, which seems most logical. But I'm wondering about something else as well. Could Bleeding/poison build with Herald of Agony+Purity work??


Can't we simply slam some support gems for herald of Purity instead? I mean herald of Agony works well with one minion summoned, so we can run Purity in 4L and enjoy bonus damage directly from the summons. With so many hits we can easily sustain the 4 summons during bosses/uniques.

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Carlovski escreveu:

Herald builds are pretty decent, but don't think this is the way to build one. Hell of a stretch to the minion nodes too.

It might be worth putting a utility support on Herald of Purity if we have mana spare though. though not sure what. Maim would be the obvious one though we would probably be using that on main links, unless you are on a 4l.
Blind is ok, but fairly easy to get a similar effect with jewels.
Chance to bleed, while using bloodlust on main links could work, but a bit tricksy, especially if relying on consistent bleeds for life on hit.
Culling strike would be handy for auto culling bosses.

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givemelight escreveu:

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Carlovski escreveu:

Herald builds are pretty decent, but don't think this is the way to build one. Hell of a stretch to the minion nodes too.

It might be worth putting a utility support on Herald of Purity if we have mana spare though. though not sure what. Maim would be the obvious one though we would probably be using that on main links, unless you are on a 4l.
Blind is ok, but fairly easy to get a similar effect with jewels.
Chance to bleed, while using bloodlust on main links could work, but a bit tricksy, especially if relying on consistent bleeds for life on hit.
Culling strike would be handy for auto culling bosses.

I don't think going for minion nodes is worth it. What I meant is something close to Toxic Rain builds. Stacking everything poison with herald of Agony and Hearld of Purity as decent buffs/extra damage/more poison applying.

Something like this (Using "Spectral Throw" as an example here, as the skills didn't release yet). It's also worth mentioning this tree is modified version of Angry_Roleplayer's Toxic Rain build.
https://pastebin.com/URt5cytN

Add flat Phy and convert to chaos, with all attack speed and several projectiles. Pierce node and Volley supp, that seems a good balance between single target and clearing speed. Poison Crit probably not stronger than pure phy build. But the Pathfinder safety and 100% flask uptime seems to make up for that, no?

Also, if this guide is not suitable place for this post (since we are making DeadEye here) I can start new thread to discuss it freely. :)

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ZoobieTV escreveu:

So, the both new banner skills sound a lot like they will benefit this build immensely. Either go war banner to further boost physical damage (and with that, get more out of impale), or use dread banner to evade attacks more safely and get fortify.

From the sound of it, going pure phys probably benefits more from war banner, paired with herald of purity and maybe a proj weakness/vulnerability blasphemy setup. Fortify you can easily get from whirling blades/leap slam here, so I don't think dread banner would be too important, maybe for hc.

Either way, sounds like this is shaping up to be quite the starter build, getting very excited for next week.

edit: I just realised how strong it would be to pair a vaal spectral throw with the impale stacks of the steel skills, assuming you add consistent impales with your skill, the multiple physical blows from spectral throw would trigger those more often and probably add a lot of single target that way, even with an unlinked vaal spectral throw (allthough you'd probably want to 4 link it with brutality, viscious proj and slower proj just to get a bit more out of it).

Assuming you get a nice rhythm between ST hits and lancing/shattering steel hits(since the ST hits would consume some impale stacks, so you need to keep impaling after), this could be quite strong and since you scale projectile damage anyways, this sounds like an interesting synergy worth at least testing.

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ZoobieTV escreveu:

I think the banner once put down, stops building up stages and just emits whatever you built up to that point for a minute or so. Meaning you'll probably just get fortify + the lowered accuracy for enemies from the dread banner and lower phys defense on enemies as well as adrenaline from the war banner. That's how I took it, at least.

And for the impale scaling, basically any phys skill would be fine to enhance your dps through impale stacks. Vaal Double Strike or Vaal Summon Skeletons could also do the trick, basically anything you can use once and then have passively help you out, I just thought about ST because the damage from the skill itself should be respectable on a 4link and it can't be evaded.

I feel like for coc builds, there's a lot better options, it could be viable, but I feel like that depends greatly on how many attacks per second you can scale on these skills. If they're fast, it's probably not bad at all. Especially with the Deadeye nodes.

Though personally I think I'd prefer a pure phys build to abuse the impale. But obviously you can do whatever you see fit with your build, honestly next friday can't come soon enough.

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phexifa escreveu:

Hey nice to see you're making another guide again, I very much enjoyed your latest builds and I'm looking forward to this one aswell.