[3.25] Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - Fast, tanky, fun to play

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DestradoImpulse escreveu:
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thedeathbeam escreveu:

Just navigate to wither skill on left and set its stacks to 15.

Outside of empower/inc aoe there is nothing worth linking PB to. For wither totems, its not really worth 6 linking them as well, you can do like spell totem/multi totem/ faster casting inc duration as 5 link but thats it.


Thanks for the prompt response!! DPS is now showing properly.

OBSERVATIONS ON HOW TO GET BETTER SURVIVABILITY
Divine Flesh + Forbidden Taste combo paid dividends for QoL. At 75% chaos res the DoT effect of the latter was completely negated, gives +10%/10% dodge attack/spell hits, and the phasing it gives can be used in a pinch if sandwiched in a mob. All for an exalt investment at current market prices.

On top of that, it freed up a flask slot as Forbidden Taste as mentioned above acts as a Quartz one, and a Jade flask greatly increased my Evade chance per PoB. 14-15% IIRC!! Depending on what prefix/suffix this can surely scale to whatever your budget is. Mine was 7 chaos with increased charge recovery and remove freeze/chill on use.

Slotting a jewel with "Corrupted Blood cannot be inflicted upon you" greatly helps with QoL. Degens at higher tier maps tend to be brutal, and this implicit definitely helped with flask management. This was a pricier jewel for certain, and it did help with quicker map clears.


Just tried Divine Flesh + Forbidden Taste with 85% Chaos Resistance and without a Darkscorn and the difference is MASSIVE. I can't even imagine with the Darkscorn. Even with my life going from 5k to 4.5k, I am much tankier now and T16 maps are much easier. Thanks for the tip!

Now my main issue is the damage for some fights... Even with Despair from Witchfire Brew and Wither Totem, as soon as a boss is chaos resistant it's hell...


can't see ur gear u have hidden character. but try upgrade ur gear as u get some currency. darkscorn is big upgrade to defesive but decent rare can do a little lower dmg than darkscorn. hell is monster chance to avoid poison. i mean monster can die quick but boss... fck xD always greedy and lose hard gained exp :D
quikc question, looking at the pob, you don't need a 6L bow? only the chest?
Is there any advantage at getting it 6L or it's a waste of fuses?

edit: I mean the Darkscorn version.
Última edição por Vorret#5361 em 31 de dez de 2019 08:24:20
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Vorret escreveu:
quikc question, looking at the pob, you don't need a 6L bow? only the chest?
Is there any advantage at getting it 6L or it's a waste of fuses?

edit: I mean the Darkscorn version.



Yeah, there is no need for 6l bow. Of course 6l is nice if you want to 6 link ballistas, but that is unnecessary as well.
My builds:
https://pobb.in/u/thedeathbeam
My site:
https://mapsofexile.com/
thanks for the quick answer :)
Ballistas vs spell totems - AI targets totems but not ballistas, AI totem targeting is very helpful at Izaro fights at labs and ofc metamorphs.

Hey man!

Thanks for the build, had to get used to it but w/e. Feels super great now. :)

I got a bow that aply despair on hit. I took out the selfcast despair and i dont rly know what to swap in its place. I was looking for a double curse combo with temp. chain, but cant figure out how or what to do.

Do you have any suggestions? :)

You can check my build if youd like and maybe give me some advice, thanks in advance.
Última edição por SauerZ#6712 em 31 de dez de 2019 09:13:36
i feel like im doing no dmg to bosses, like conqueror, trash mobs are dying in a blink of an eye, and if i put viscious projectiles for image archer the dps wont change in pob




what could i improve? go for balista 4link for wither? i feel like totems die so fast


Última edição por lormdoep#2165 em 31 de dez de 2019 17:19:09
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Icaros escreveu:

Darkscorn is more for defense. It's on par with a rare bow for damage, but a perfect roll rare can be more damage. This league the defense of Darkscorn + divine flesh is very valuable.



Hey, just saw your reply. Thank you!!


"Darkscorn is more for defense. It's on par with a rare bow for damage, but a perfect roll rare can be more damage"

Are you sure? Can anyone help me and tell me if they actually get more DPS out of their build with a well rolled Darkscorn? The damage calculation is the most confusing thing for me.

My Bow:

Adds 58 to 128 Chaos Damage
+80 to Accuracy Rating
Curses Enemies With Level 10 Despair On Hit
25% Chance To Poison On Hit
40% Increased Damage with Poison
+35% To Chaos Damage over Time Multiplier
60% Chance for poisons inflicted with this weapon to deal 100% more damage

Darkscorn:

145% increased Physical Damage
Adds 16 to 28 Physical Damage
20% increased Attack Speed
25% increased Global Accuracy Rating
25% of Physical Damage Converted to Chaos Damage
25% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Chaos Damage
20% chance for Poisons inflicted with this Weapon to deal 300% more Damage


Im at work now, can't check POB. But I can remember my total Poison DPS.
With my rare bow, I ended up at around 4,4 Million DPS.
With Darkscorn added in POB, my Poison damage drops by almost a million!


Also, technically its the same, right:

60% Chance for poisons inflicted with this weapon to deal 100% more damage
and
20% chance for Poisons inflicted with this Weapon to deal 300% more Damage


In POB I replace these mods with "60% Increased Damage with poison".
How is it possible, that my Poison DPS drops this crazy?
I really want to try Darkscorn, but even the best defenses won't convince me to drop like 25% total DPS. Or am I doing something wrong with my calculation?
Everyone is saying, only the best rare bows can compete with Darkscorn DPS-wise.


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Icaros escreveu:

I tested all types of ballistas, including Toxic Rain and Scourge arrow. None of them come close to competing with simple wither totems. Constant 15 wither stacks is worth more to us than a bit of extra damage. For big single target, it's also possible swapping Mirage for Vicious Projectiles is the play.


Big money purchases/crafts: Elusive/Tailwind Boots, Dot Multi quiver, Dot Multi neck, Curse on hit gloves, -chaos res helm, awakened gems, another damage stat circle of nostalgia. Lots of choices ;)


So, you are saying the best is a simple Wither Totem with multiple totems?
Do you have them in Embalmer gloves as a pseudo 5-Link?




Thank you so much for your answers, guys!












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markuskanada escreveu:
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Icaros escreveu:

Darkscorn is more for defense. It's on par with a rare bow for damage, but a perfect roll rare can be more damage. This league the defense of Darkscorn + divine flesh is very valuable.



Hey, just saw your reply. Thank you!!


"Darkscorn is more for defense. It's on par with a rare bow for damage, but a perfect roll rare can be more damage"

Are you sure? Can anyone help me and tell me if they actually get more DPS out of their build with a well rolled Darkscorn? The damage calculation is the most confusing thing for me.

My Bow:

Adds 58 to 128 Chaos Damage
+80 to Accuracy Rating
Curses Enemies With Level 10 Despair On Hit
25% Chance To Poison On Hit
40% Increased Damage with Poison
+35% To Chaos Damage over Time Multiplier
60% Chance for poisons inflicted with this weapon to deal 100% more damage

Darkscorn:

145% increased Physical Damage
Adds 16 to 28 Physical Damage
20% increased Attack Speed
25% increased Global Accuracy Rating
25% of Physical Damage Converted to Chaos Damage
25% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Chaos Damage
20% chance for Poisons inflicted with this Weapon to deal 300% more Damage


Im at work now, can't check POB. But I can remember my total Poison DPS.
With my rare bow, I ended up at around 4,4 Million DPS.
With Darkscorn added in POB, my Poison damage drops by almost a million!


Also, technically its the same, right:

60% Chance for poisons inflicted with this weapon to deal 100% more damage
and
20% chance for Poisons inflicted with this Weapon to deal 300% more Damage


In POB I replace these mods with "60% Increased Damage with poison".
How is it possible, that my Poison DPS drops this crazy?
I really want to try Darkscorn, but even the best defenses won't convince me to drop like 25% total DPS. Or am I doing something wrong with my calculation?
Everyone is saying, only the best rare bows can compete with Darkscorn DPS-wise.


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Icaros escreveu:

I tested all types of ballistas, including Toxic Rain and Scourge arrow. None of them come close to competing with simple wither totems. Constant 15 wither stacks is worth more to us than a bit of extra damage. For big single target, it's also possible swapping Mirage for Vicious Projectiles is the play.


Big money purchases/crafts: Elusive/Tailwind Boots, Dot Multi quiver, Dot Multi neck, Curse on hit gloves, -chaos res helm, awakened gems, another damage stat circle of nostalgia. Lots of choices ;)


So, you are saying the best is a simple Wither Totem with multiple totems?
Do you have them in Embalmer gloves as a pseudo 5-Link?




Thank you so much for your answers, guys!














How u check them? 100% vs 300% xD its not the same.
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Rejz0 escreveu:
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markuskanada escreveu:
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Icaros escreveu:

Darkscorn is more for defense. It's on par with a rare bow for damage, but a perfect roll rare can be more damage. This league the defense of Darkscorn + divine flesh is very valuable.



Hey, just saw your reply. Thank you!!


"Darkscorn is more for defense. It's on par with a rare bow for damage, but a perfect roll rare can be more damage"

Are you sure? Can anyone help me and tell me if they actually get more DPS out of their build with a well rolled Darkscorn? The damage calculation is the most confusing thing for me.

My Bow:

Adds 58 to 128 Chaos Damage
+80 to Accuracy Rating
Curses Enemies With Level 10 Despair On Hit
25% Chance To Poison On Hit
40% Increased Damage with Poison
+35% To Chaos Damage over Time Multiplier
60% Chance for poisons inflicted with this weapon to deal 100% more damage

Darkscorn:

145% increased Physical Damage
Adds 16 to 28 Physical Damage
20% increased Attack Speed
25% increased Global Accuracy Rating
25% of Physical Damage Converted to Chaos Damage
25% of Physical Damage from Hits taken as Chaos Damage
20% chance for Poisons inflicted with this Weapon to deal 300% more Damage


Im at work now, can't check POB. But I can remember my total Poison DPS.
With my rare bow, I ended up at around 4,4 Million DPS.
With Darkscorn added in POB, my Poison damage drops by almost a million!


Also, technically its the same, right:

60% Chance for poisons inflicted with this weapon to deal 100% more damage
and
20% chance for Poisons inflicted with this Weapon to deal 300% more Damage


In POB I replace these mods with "60% Increased Damage with poison".
How is it possible, that my Poison DPS drops this crazy?
I really want to try Darkscorn, but even the best defenses won't convince me to drop like 25% total DPS. Or am I doing something wrong with my calculation?
Everyone is saying, only the best rare bows can compete with Darkscorn DPS-wise.


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Icaros escreveu:

I tested all types of ballistas, including Toxic Rain and Scourge arrow. None of them come close to competing with simple wither totems. Constant 15 wither stacks is worth more to us than a bit of extra damage. For big single target, it's also possible swapping Mirage for Vicious Projectiles is the play.


Big money purchases/crafts: Elusive/Tailwind Boots, Dot Multi quiver, Dot Multi neck, Curse on hit gloves, -chaos res helm, awakened gems, another damage stat circle of nostalgia. Lots of choices ;)


So, you are saying the best is a simple Wither Totem with multiple totems?
Do you have them in Embalmer gloves as a pseudo 5-Link?




Thank you so much for your answers, guys!














How u check them? 100% vs 300% xD its not the same.



Haha, I know, I'm not that stupid :D
But for a better comparison, i believe it might be more accurate to leave them both at 60% increased poison? Isn't 20% and 300% pretty much the same as 60% and 100% ?

Or how do you calculate this in pob? the mod is red if you leave as is in pob. means, it doesnt get calculated...

Here from OP in his opening description:

"If your bow is Darkscorn or bow with Delve mod 60% chance for Poisons inflicted with this Weapon to deal 100% more Damage, select it in items section, click Edit.., add 60% more damage with Poison at bottom and click Save (this is workaround for poison mod, because PoB do not supports it atm)"

This mod is same same right, regardless of Darkscorn or Delve mod?



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