[3.25] Scourge Arrow Poison Prolif Pathfinder - Fast, tanky, fun to play

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thedeathbeam escreveu:

Big build update:

11th December 2023
- Replaced Anninhilation's Approach and rare belt with **Ralakesh's
Impatience and Olesya's Delight
- Added charms and selected Primalist
- Overall these simple changes net the build around 60% more** DPS than before and higher survivability thanks to charms and not having perma degen
- Added entry about Scourge Arrow of the Menace to FAQ (mostly due to common misinformation)

Thanks for the update but I have a question if we are count as full maximum charge so we still need frenzy with manaforged?

With helmet corruption(90% reservation multi) and 1 reservation charm, we can use agony herald. Is it worth it?

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Dassort escreveu:

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thedeathbeam escreveu:

Big build update:

11th December 2023
- Replaced Anninhilation's Approach and rare belt with **Ralakesh's
Impatience and Olesya's Delight
- Added charms and selected Primalist
- Overall these simple changes net the build around 60% more** DPS than before and higher survivability thanks to charms and not having perma degen
- Added entry about Scourge Arrow of the Menace to FAQ (mostly due to common misinformation)

Thanks for the update but I have a question if we are count as full maximum charge so we still need frenzy with manaforged?

you need frenzy to generate belt charges

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rism4n escreveu:

With helmet corruption(90% reservation multi) and 1 reservation charm, we can use agony herald. Is it worth it?

Well its 10% more damage for very little effort and we have open gem socket anyway so sure why not? Alternatively you could also go for Arctic Armour for some extra defense.

Hi

Whats the Point taking onslaught effect instead of wither effect in charms?
Am i missing something?

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Spoonito escreveu:

Hi

Whats the Point taking onslaught effect instead of wither effect in charms?
Am i missing something?

Damage wise they are should be the same, but onslaught gives QOL(aps, move speed)

Hey @thedeathbeam first, thanks for keeping the guide alive. This league I have been experimenting with the new gems a lot. I agree with you take on scourge arrow of menace, also the mana cost is a bit annoying. I tried yesterday toxic rain of sporeburst and I want to know if you have tried too. I didn't have to invest in extra proj or chance to poison which is good. The damage is there but you need to endure the delay. Maybe with some invest in less duration or the grasping vine Tinture... could be better. If you have tried new things, please share it with us.

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dnny9 escreveu:

Hey @thedeathbeam first, thanks for keeping the guide alive. This league I have been experimenting with the new gems a lot. I agree with you take on scourge arrow of menace, also the mana cost is a bit annoying. I tried yesterday toxic rain of sporeburst and I want to know if you have tried too. I didn't have to invest in extra proj or chance to poison which is good. The damage is there but you need to endure the delay. Maybe with some invest in less duration or the grasping vine Tinture... could be better. If you have tried new things, please share it with us.

Yea. I was testing some extra stuff with Menace, and Sniper's Mark doesnt work either so I can only rly see myself playing it with Nimis and Arrow Nova and then it might be worth.

For Toxic Rain, I was looking at the numbers a bit and as baseline they look decent assuming 5 overlaps (which is with TR at like 39% aoe or something). The issue is that Poison CA outscales it basically immediatelly so its probs not as good as it looks like (especially when you apply the limited TR overlap rules).

CA obviously very strong but bad clear etc. But other than that its just standard stuff as always

@thedeathbeam, can you update the "Configure the PoB" section since the enchant was removed? Since CA is pretty good this league for single damage, is it worth gem swapping for bossing?

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ericchongws escreveu:

@thedeathbeam, can you update the "Configure the PoB" section since the enchant was removed? Since CA is pretty good this league for single damage, is it worth gem swapping for bossing?

Oh oops, I thought I updated it but I guess I forgot some parts. Yea of course.

And for CA, I think at least for ubers its definitely worth it, just swap returning projs and scourge arrow with caustic arrow and greater volley. Around 7 total arrows is when it still overlaps even on humanoids super reliably, around 9 at size 3 enemies which is slightly larger than humanoid. So if you can gem swap and hover somewhere around those values then that should be worthwhile.