[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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kablamn escreveu:

Thanks for the info! I think I’m missing the amulet enchant. Also, what are the different versions of the build? And are they easily changeable?

I have seen 3 versions emerge this league.

1) Poison based (uses Vile Toxins in HOP setup)
2) Impale based (uses Impale support in HOP setup)
3) Aura stacker based (lots of reserve and lots of auras). More defense, less DPS.

Easily changeable is in the eye of the beholder :) All use the same core gear, but use different tree pathing, different clusters and different gems.

Hi!

Is there any way I can get my damage up? During boss fights it feels kinda on the low side.

https://pastebin.com/6cz0CvmZ

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AndyLovesHisBge escreveu:

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kablamn escreveu:

I’m a little late to question this as I just got what I think is all the gear I need, but can this build do all bosses? Also, should I be able to have determination and disc up with HoP without clusters? Thanks in advancing! Loving the build so far.

hello! Welcome to the build :)

There are a couple of different versions of the build people are running.

I am running an updated build based on the one in the build guide. I have HOP, Determination, Discipline and Clarity all running with out the need for any reservation on my cluster jewels. My cluster jewels are all for damage.

To keep up all these auras I use the following:

Charisma: Amulet Enchant
Sovereignty nodes: tree
Discord Artisan nodes: tree
Reduced Res on Influence branch: tree
39% reduced HOP reserve: Rings


You can take a peek at my POB for many more details if you like:
https://pastebin.com/Gy7NxA3v

Hello andy , hope all is well

I see you are 88 <3

Im gone switch to all damage clusters and 2b-2g-2r cause cant find coruption for other colours


I see your pob , what you gone add on the way to 100 ? Im really interested , i will be 93 today

Much respect

Any chance there are links to the different versions? Also, what’s the difference between poison and impale? I saw a similar build that used HoA and wasn’t sure what the benefits of either were. And will I need to know anything in advance so that bossing goes smoothly? Thanks all in advance!

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eldest-bike4 escreveu:

Hello andy , hope all is well

I see you are 88 <3

Im gone switch to all damage clusters and 2b-2g-2r cause cant find coruption for other colours


I see your pob , what you gone add on the way to 100 ? Im really interested , i will be 93 today

Much respect

Hi Eldest!! Hope the grind is going well for you.

Here is a POB to level 100 (it is identical to my previous POB except for the added points in the tree).

https://pastebin.com/TiNe2AP2

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kablamn escreveu:

Any chance there are links to the different versions? Also, what’s the difference between poison and impale? I saw a similar build that used HoA and wasn’t sure what the benefits of either were. And will I need to know anything in advance so that bossing goes smoothly? Thanks all in advance!

*There are many small differences as I mentioned above. Different gem setups, different tree pathings, different cluster jewels, etc.

*Here are some POB links you can use that have been recently posted in the thread:

Impale: https://pastebin.com/caTNU7s9 (this is Ellarizz's masterpiece)

Poison: https://pastebin.com/TiNe2AP2

Stacking: https://pastebin.com/6a2KyWB3

*There is an excellent guide on how to use HOA in numerous ways similar to this build. You can find that guide here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3019705

*There is a section in our build guide in the first post of this thread that focuses on boss mechanics. Take a read through that and see if it answers some of your questions.

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mewakey escreveu:

Hi!

Is there any way I can get my damage up? During boss fights it feels kinda on the low side.

https://pastebin.com/6cz0CvmZ

hello!

Here are some items to consider

1) If you change your amulet enchantment to Charisma and take the reservation node that you skipped in the Sovereignty cluster, you should be able to drop the medium cluster jewel that has the determination and discipline reservation nodes. Replace that entire cluster with a minion damage cluster like you have on the left side of your tree. These damage clusters will stack. You will likely need to drop precision, which is relatively meaningless for the build

2) You may already be doing this but when you are fighting the tougher bosses, remove melee splash and replace it with something that gives your spiders more OOMPH. I use a 20/20 Multistrike for the Big bosses.

You can look at this POB to help you figure out your mana for #1 above.
https://pastebin.com/TiNe2AP2

Well this is exciting!! Look what I found on trade for only 5ex!!!




I give up a decent amount of ES but gain an absolute ton of DPS. I think I went up ~1 million DPS with this one item.

A wonderful bonus was the determination stat on this amulet. It allowed me to drop charisma and add in Ravenous Horde for lots more DPS.

Here are my stats at level 90.

ES: 7525
Armor: 45,250 (no molten shell active)
DPS Mapping: 3.75m
DPS Single Target: 4.2M



At level 97, these will be my stats with no other gear changes

ES: 8014
Armor: 58,404 (no molten shell active)
DPS Mapping: 3.97m
DPS Single Target: 4.4M


- I just ran a quick test and it feels REALLY good. I just did a full deathless 20 level simulacrum.

Will try that, thanks a lot!

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AndyLovesHisBge escreveu:

Hi Eldest!! Hope the grind is going well for you.

Here is a POB to level 100 (it is identical to my previous POB except for the added points in the tree).

https://pastebin.com/TiNe2AP2

I have no idea how are you doing it... I made some major gear upgrades and thought it should be pretty good already but I'm still far behind you... How do you get so much DPS and defences? How can you have so much armour with no Grace, and so much ES? I really hope it's just some POB settings I am missing... Have no clue :(

Could you take a look?
https://pastebin.com/w34FDYir