[3.9] Dual-wield Ahn's Might Cyclone Slayer | Off Meta | League Starter | Endgame | All Content |

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Asramero escreveu:
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Angriff36 escreveu:
Trying to figure out the mana balance on this build is a nightmare. I took your advice and did multiple things to try to remedy it instead of just one and I still stutter step like crazy using cyclone. I got level 3 enlighten support(190 chaos by the way, not 30) linked with maim flesh and stone and pride, i got -3 channeling on a ring, and i even did the cast when damage taken blood rage thing. I guess i can drop phys damage craft on my other ring to get to -6 mana cyclone but my dps is already hurting even though I feel like i have a ton of dps gear. I'm sitting at 118k in hideout and when fighting with flasks up i get to maybe 200k dps, way short of the 1 mil advertised. I'm still running health flasks but I can't see that adding 800k dps and i feel like they are needed this league with all the shit some bosses throw at you projectile wise.

Didn't I replied to you with "easiest way to fix is to get mana leech jewel" which can be bought at 1c - instead you spend 190 chaos for end game item early in the league. Those 30c price tag is include with "at the time of this writing" which meant it is written in the past- did you expect I update the price tag on real time basis? Can't you use your own judgement? And fyi 30-40c is the average price for level 3 Enlighten in most leagues- ask any veteran.

And then did you seriously compared ingame tool tip dps with POB? Of course it is way less - ingame tooltip dps is not accurate. It doesn't count Pride, Maim, Impale, Intimidate mechanics and alot more. Last but not least I never advertised 1 million dps even though my POB is actually is above 2m if you include Impale calculation.


Really nice attitude man...not.
Having fun with your build atm. Only 75 tho.

Ive read your guide and i might be an idiot - regarding your CWDT setup with BR-vulnerability-Cwdt.

Can a lvl 1 cwdt support a level 20 Bloodrage?
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Losnoobos escreveu:
Having fun with your build atm. Only 75 tho.

Ive read your guide and i might be an idiot - regarding your CWDT setup with BR-vulnerability-Cwdt.

Can a lvl 1 cwdt support a level 20 Bloodrage?


In that case you must choose between one of the two options:

1) Keep the Blood Rage at lv7 so that it can proc in you CWDT
2) Level Blood Rage up to lv20 and activate it yourself, as the CWDT will simply ignore it and you will virtually be using at as 1L + 2L instead of a 3L
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Lucasbaile escreveu:
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Losnoobos escreveu:
Having fun with your build atm. Only 75 tho.

Ive read your guide and i might be an idiot - regarding your CWDT setup with BR-vulnerability-Cwdt.

Can a lvl 1 cwdt support a level 20 Bloodrage?


In that case you must choose between one of the two options:

1) Keep the Blood Rage at lv7 so that it can proc in you CWDT
2) Level Blood Rage up to lv20 and activate it yourself, as the CWDT will simply ignore it and you will virtually be using at as 1L + 2L instead of a 3L


He's self casting.. of course. Makes perfect sense. I knew it was something stupid and me being an idiot.

Thanks for pointing it out
Hey, great build so far!

I am however struggling with understanding why tempered flesh is better then a rare jewel. Im not getting to 70% near the jugg node, but 49%. Is this something that has been patched since guide was written?

Thanks!
Is it better to have a 5L Armor with stats or Tabula Rasa?

If it's better to have a 5L Armor with stats, what support gem out of the six can be removed?
With blood and sand, flesh and stone, pride, and dread banner; i only have 13/686 mana to use. Can't cast blood rage etc.

Can you take a look at my setup and tell me what i'm doing wrong? Other than my ammy & flasks ;)
Última edição por linuschee#3891 em 18 de dez de 2019 18:50:48
@Angriff36
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Angriff36 escreveu:

Jesus calm down I'm letting people know who are somewhat new like me but I'll respond to the points you make. I have mana leech, the stutter step is when you aren't hitting enemies or you run out of mana after one leap slam because you have 99% mana reserved, I can spin when hitting enemies but the second they die I'm stutter stepping. The fix I'm pretty sure is just making cyclone cost zero as the only option. As for the gem, again I'm letting people know who might try to go that route to let them know it doesnt really help. I've played since the game launched but just off and on when new leagues start up, never bought the gem before so not sure on the economy of it, I can't keep up with the changing prices of 1000s of items and gems, figured it might be because exalts are dropping like candy this league. And I've never used PoB before so I wasn't aware that the display damage would change that much, can you say what kinda tooltip dps you are getting on this build for those of us who don't PoB everything so we can see where we stand? Not everyone knows every single in and out of this game.

And Fyi I wasnt even saying the build is bad, just that mana is a major issue even with the stated fixes this league. I still clear stuff just fine and after some tweaks I can mow down bosses quick, so the damage is fine. As for the mana for now I just run with flesh and stone off since it makes getting around and managing stuff way easier with like 15% mana to play with. So chill, you don't need to be so defensive like I just came to your house and kicked your dog lol.

Oh boy, I was ready to react to this but then I reread previous replied posts. I thought you were the same player who I replied because you mentioned you took my advice. I guess I was triggered when you called it's a nightmare and I advertised 1 million dps when it is not; because it sounds like you calling me a liar. In my defense, I never advertise dps number in any of my build, ever.

So with that said, that's on me, so I apologize. I am not gonna dwell on it. As you mentioned, the best way is to get 0 mana cost and I already updated Accessory Explanation regarding mana issue before your latest reply.

@Flobzy
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Flobzy escreveu:
Hey, great build so far!

I am however struggling with understanding why tempered flesh is better then a rare jewel. Im not getting to 70% near the jugg node, but 49%. Is this something that has been patched since guide was written?

Thanks!
Yes, I believe I already update this description before your reply.

CakeTasteGood
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CakeTasteGood escreveu:
Is it better to have a 5L Armor with stats or Tabula Rasa?

If it's better to have a 5L Armor with stats, what support gem out of the six can be removed?

If you don't struggle defensively (life and resistance), get Tabula Rasa and farm endgame 6L rare armour. If not get 5L with some stats.

@linuschee
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linuschee escreveu:
With blood and sand, flesh and stone, pride, and dread banner; i only have 13/686 mana to use. Can't cast blood rage etc.

Can you take a look at my setup and tell me what i'm doing wrong? Other than my ammy & flasks ;)

This already covered in PAQ no 13.


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Asramero escreveu:
@Angriff36
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Angriff36 escreveu:

Jesus calm down I'm letting people know who are somewhat new like me but I'll respond to the points you make. I have mana leech, the stutter step is when you aren't hitting enemies or you run out of mana after one leap slam because you have 99% mana reserved, I can spin when hitting enemies but the second they die I'm stutter stepping. The fix I'm pretty sure is just making cyclone cost zero as the only option. As for the gem, again I'm letting people know who might try to go that route to let them know it doesnt really help. I've played since the game launched but just off and on when new leagues start up, never bought the gem before so not sure on the economy of it, I can't keep up with the changing prices of 1000s of items and gems, figured it might be because exalts are dropping like candy this league. And I've never used PoB before so I wasn't aware that the display damage would change that much, can you say what kinda tooltip dps you are getting on this build for those of us who don't PoB everything so we can see where we stand? Not everyone knows every single in and out of this game.

And Fyi I wasnt even saying the build is bad, just that mana is a major issue even with the stated fixes this league. I still clear stuff just fine and after some tweaks I can mow down bosses quick, so the damage is fine. As for the mana for now I just run with flesh and stone off since it makes getting around and managing stuff way easier with like 15% mana to play with. So chill, you don't need to be so defensive like I just came to your house and kicked your dog lol.

Oh boy, I was ready to react to this but then I reread previous replied posts. I thought you were the same player who I replied because you mentioned you took my advice. I guess I was triggered when you called it's a nightmare and I advertised 1 million dps when it is not; because it sounds like you calling me a liar. In my defense, I never advertise dps number in any of my build, ever.

So with that said, that's on me, so I apologize. I am not gonna dwell on it. As you mentioned, the best way is to get 0 mana cost and I already updated Accessory Explanation regarding mana issue before your latest reply.



No worries, I'm breezing through red maps even without flesh to stone since I just dont want to have to dedicate my necklace and both rings to minus mana mods, I feel like that just takes away too many options, and so far I'm not really having issues and I really dont want to play with no mana unless my skills are free. Do you have any recommendations on what another gem is that would add decent damage or something if I was to just drop flesh and stone altogether?
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Angriff36 escreveu:
No worries, I'm breezing through red maps even without flesh to stone since I just dont want to have to dedicate my necklace and both rings to minus mana mods, I feel like that just takes away too many options, and so far I'm not really having issues and I really dont want to play with no mana unless my skills are free. Do you have any recommendations on what another gem is that would add decent damage or something if I was to just drop flesh and stone altogether?

Since I can't see your character and gears or your POB, I can't really tell. Have you tried dropping Blood and Sand instead of Flesh and Stone?

If you prefer to have Blood and Sand on for higher unreserved mana or for switching Blood/Sand stance for damage/aoe then I'd recommend linking Maim support with Ancestral Warchief/Vengeance.

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