[3.15] 1h Impale Cyclone Slayer. Cheap league starter and strong endgame farmer. No required items.

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Dex2644 escreveu:

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Cassla escreveu:

Im a bit surprised with the recommendation to not take Bane of Legends.
I never really played Slayer to a point where it mattered, but i assumed the 20% cull would be very notable with the Maven Bosses?
Can be so nice to just finish them early, for example if they have a stronger last phase.

Anyone care to explain it to me? :) Thank!
I would have assumed we would then get cull on the Warchief, so the difference to 20% cull from Bane of Legends would only be 10%. But according to the guide, not even that is recommended.

Impact, Brutal Fervour and Headsman are all imo irreplacable so that leaves you with the 4th node as a flex choice.

Overwhelm helps achieving consistent crits when you dont have uber foils with 400pdps aswell as 7%+ crit on them.

Endless Hunger gives the stun/bleed immunity and finally Bane of Legends gives a minor speed boost and the 20% cull.

Personally I dont really like the cull mechanic because it does nothing except raw damage. I like the ascendancy nodes to fill gaps or provide effects that are very hard to get otherwise.

Cull on warchief is definitely a choice you can do but you would have to stop doing damage yourself to cast it, wich isnt really worth it for the 10%.

Thank you for the explanation! :)
For Warchief, i would probably try to keep it up anyways, since it gives me the damage buff..Alternativ would be to have culling strike in the leap slam. I think one Leap Slam is better then having to dps for 10% of boss life - this build cant possible deal that 10% faster than one leap slam? (i hope im wrong, that would be awesome! :D)

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iman00700 escreveu:

hello

thanks for the build, i have few questions

is foil a must or can i use pardox and saviour together? foil really is expensive

also cluster jewels a must? cause i cant really afford them but rn i can do conqs at a7. well its not deathless but still i can do them

also normally i have 4k armour and with flask it goes up to around 11k and which is 45 phys reduction can i take imbalanced guard to atleast cap it at 50? like its only 1 point and i have nothing to put that 1 point in

also i didnt take warcry because to lazy to cast it :)

also since mana was big issue i went and get mana leech along with vaal pact since there are enemies everywhere leech seemed to be better

Hey, some of these questions are answered in the guide, maybe give it another read. :)
Paradoxia and Saviour: Sure. The guide clearly says, pick a foil or paradoxia, whatever you want.
Also cluster jewels: They are listed as an expensive option for later on. Go with the cheap tree, farm up currency, then switch to the expensive tree.
Armour: Dont do that. Armour is not important enough to warrant that/limit yourself like that. Read up on the armour mechanics if you want to know more. And there is always something to put a point in. Always.

POB:https://pastebin.com/U11bfcVm

I use the Fork POB that also calculates impale dmg. Exactly same gear, just different ascendancy. I've played as Champion and now after it was migrated on Std, swapped to Slayer. Comparing the two, Slayer is so much more squishy but also does less damage. Even after I've upgraded tree to 3.13 in POB, is still a damage difference. But only based on survivability alone, I'm more comfortable playing Champion.

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GonkGonk escreveu:

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alecs87 escreveu:

Been playing with POB and even with the nerf on "master of metal" I still get more dps on Champion than on Slayer ( about 2 mil more) as well as more survivability. So I think I'll be going again the same path as the previous leagues and stick with Champion

Whats your POB for champiom 1h impale cyclone? Do u use the same gear just put points into different things?

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alecs87 escreveu:

POB:https://pastebin.com/U11bfcVm

I use the Fork POB that also calculates impale dmg. Exactly same gear, just different ascendancy. I've played as Champion and now after it was migrated on Std, swapped to Slayer. Comparing the two, Slayer is so much more squishy but also does less damage. Even after I've upgraded tree to 3.13 in POB, is still a damage difference. But only based on survivability alone, I'm more comfortable playing Champion.

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GonkGonk escreveu:

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alecs87 escreveu:

Been playing with POB and even with the nerf on "master of metal" I still get more dps on Champion than on Slayer ( about 2 mil more) as well as more survivability. So I think I'll be going again the same path as the previous leagues and stick with Champion

Whats your POB for champiom 1h impale cyclone? Do u use the same gear just put points into different things?

i dont rly know what you mean by squishy.

you need to change the slayer nodes for leech. and if afterwords you go vaal pact you can reach 3k life on hit...

for defense in champion you get adrenalin when you get bellow 25%, good for not getting one shot, doubt it will be up most times. and you get 10% less damage taken if you taunt an enemy.

for slayer you get 10% less damage when leeching, thats allways... and enemies have -30% to crit multi.


also go for this league main even and add 10 enemies in proximity in pob for the 10 boss fight. you can only get more damage if you have adrenalin

Ah my bad
I just went through gear mods gem links and pob tree. Time to farm currency and get stronger
Thanks for help :)

Hi guys, any one have good loot filter for leveling?

yo could you generate the code instead of pastebin my "import from pastebin.." is broken would appreciate it alot!!

Thanks for your work on this build, it was invaluable to me during the interim race events (which is when I discovered it). Not only is this a solid build as is, but it is designed in a way that allows it to be open to tweaking - I see myself in future leagues using this build with its solid foundation and changing up a few things here or there for variety (2h run, axe run, other classes/ascendancies, etc).

You specifically call out Champion as a good alternative for boss-focused endgame, and I was wondering if that's still the case with the Champion nerfs.
I haven't completed the new endgame since the Conquerors were released, and with the introduction of the Maven, now seems like a good time to go for it. Do the Slayer buffs + Champion nerfs edge the Slayer out in this regard?

Isn't Daresso's Salute good for the build ? Or did GGG changed something and full life doesn't count for overleech anymore ?

General question: Why not talke jewels earlier? Are they so bad?

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bejuts escreveu:

General question: Why not talke jewels earlier? Are they so bad?

You need to be high enough level (for the passive skill points) and have the currency to afford them. Additionally, your general items should be somewhat good already.
Thats the limitation. So everyone will probably switch as soon as they can, but thats usually not early.