[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL

Thots on the high level changes for 3.22?
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NosesforSale escreveu:
Thots on the high level changes for 3.22?


Build will be fine. Most likely I'll change amulet and Temp Chains curse for something else.
Planning to league start this as it was my favorite build many leagues ago. I noticed many things have changed since then so I had a few questions.

How would you prioritize the auras before meeting the mana reservation requirements? Herald + Purity > Grace > Malevolence?

What nodes would you drop for a lvl 92/93 build? I was thinking the 2 gem slots on the right for 4 points, the two small life/er nodes at the top right and I couldn't decide what to do for the last two nodes. Resist node beside the gem socket on the left seemed nice to make gearing easier at the start since the build uses so many uniques and everything else seems somewhat mandatory except maybe the recoup nodes or the leech nodes.

Is the reason you choose avatar of chase over any of the other ascendencies with FF/FS jewels related to the 90% vs 95% evasion quote you have in your defenses section? Would it be fair to say that it isnt that great until you hit high evasion values?

Lastly hows this build's flask uptime on bosses? IIRC it was prety good but pob is only telling me 40%.
Última edição por we123450#3827 em 15 de ago de 2023 07:02:37
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we123450 escreveu:
Planning to league start this as it was my favorite build many leagues ago. I noticed many things have changed since then so I had a few questions.

How would you prioritize the auras before meeting the mana reservation requirements? Herald + Purity > Grace > Malevolence?

What nodes would you drop for a lvl 92/93 build? I was thinking the 2 gem slots on the right for 4 points, the two small life/er nodes at the top right and I couldn't decide what to do for the last two nodes. Resist node beside the gem socket on the left seemed nice to make gearing easier at the start since the build uses so many uniques and everything else seems somewhat mandatory except maybe the recoup nodes or the leech nodes.

Is the reason you choose avatar of chase over any of the other ascendencies with FF/FS jewels related to the 90% vs 95% evasion quote you have in your defenses section? Would it be fair to say that it isnt that great until you hit high evasion values?

Lastly hows this build's flask uptime on bosses? IIRC it was prety good but pob is only telling me 40%.


1) Yeah, get Malevolence last. You'll need Grace for survivability.

2) https://pastebin.com/rwVAxYjB this would be new preliminary PoB
remove the medium cluster and some damage nodes or something non vital

3) yeah, Avatar of Chase caps your Evasion and until you have high evasion rating it's not that great

4) flask uptime ain't perfect, it's enough to take down bosses but you will be able to prolong it substantially with new Tattoos
Thoughts on the impact to poison molten strike in 3.22? Seems like are losing a support gem for Returning Proj now right?
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krustyle escreveu:
Thoughts on the impact to poison molten strike in 3.22? Seems like are losing a support gem for Returning Proj now right?


Returning Proj support is 39% more damage gem so it's not worth taking unless you want to double life/mana on hit gain.

Also to add that Poison dps in new PoB in post above is higher than in 3.21 so damage ramp up will be faster in this league.
Build is somewhat more expensive due to use of Ashes amulet but it will be just as good if not better.
Última edição por TorsteinTheFallen#1295 em 18 de ago de 2023 12:04:32
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TorsteinTheFallen escreveu:
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krustyle escreveu:
Thoughts on the impact to poison molten strike in 3.22? Seems like are losing a support gem for Returning Proj now right?


Returning Proj support is 39% more damage gem so it's not worth taking unless you want to double life/mana on hit gain.

Also to add that Poison dps in new PoB in post above is higher than in 3.21 so damage ramp up will be faster in this league.
Build is somewhat more expensive due to use of Ashes amulet but it will be just as good if not better.


Is there an alternative to ashes? I've never been rich enough to have a chase item, and I doubt that will change this league. lol
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Avuris escreveu:
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TorsteinTheFallen escreveu:
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krustyle escreveu:
Thoughts on the impact to poison molten strike in 3.22? Seems like are losing a support gem for Returning Proj now right?


Returning Proj support is 39% more damage gem so it's not worth taking unless you want to double life/mana on hit gain.

Also to add that Poison dps in new PoB in post above is higher than in 3.21 so damage ramp up will be faster in this league.
Build is somewhat more expensive due to use of Ashes amulet but it will be just as good if not better.


Is there an alternative to ashes? I've never been rich enough to have a chase item, and I doubt that will change this league. lol


Yeah ofc, you can still go with Solstice Vigil and Temporal Chains + Blasphemy or even rare or other unique amulet. Ashes are just best in slot.
In that case you will have to take Influence notable because of reservation.
Is the pob for the molten strike one accurate or is it finicky because of the proj+number of hits. From what I can see damage per hit seems similar to pestilent strike and about half of viper strike but I imagine it hits much more often. I swapped off poison conc. but the damage seems to be lacking so I was thinking of trying molten strike tomorrow.

Bit new to this but isn't returning projectile 1.39x better than vicious projectile 1.49x0.9=1.34x? Its weaker than the awakened version however.

Also the attack mastery for +1 strike near the cluster might be better than ancestral call for budget builds that cant afford the glove. The extra proj node does nothing for PS and VS but 2 passives in exchange for an extra link seems worth it.
Última edição por we123450#3827 em 19 de ago de 2023 10:26:16
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we123450 escreveu:
Is the pob for the molten strike one accurate or is it finicky because of the proj+number of hits. From what I can see damage per hit seems similar to pestilent strike and about half of viper strike but I imagine it hits much more often. I swapped off poison conc. but the damage seems to be lacking so I was thinking of trying molten strike tomorrow.

Bit new to this but isn't returning projectile 1.39x better than vicious projectile 1.49x0.9=1.34x?

Also the attack mastery for +1 strike near the cluster might be better than ancestral call for budget builds that cant afford the glove. The extra proj node does nothing for PS and VS but 2 passives in exchange for an extra link seems worth it.


Molten Strike is out the picture now because Vengeant Cascade nerf. VC legit made it deal double damage from balls.
It's not worth doing it now.

Go with Pestilent/Viper Strike.



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