[3.20] KissMeQuick's Slayer Reave: REBORN — T19 100% Maps & Mad Strong in Sanctum — Starter

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Dedellx escreveu:

LOL
Maybe is slower to map, but the thing with cyclone is: I just press one button and nothing else matter, when I'm just attacking while moving! With reave I had to press a lot of buttons, stop a lot of times to attack, and die for nothing. And I play on controller, so was really annoying press a lot of button combination to use secondary skills or even flasks. With cyclone I just press my attack button and go until the boss. And for bossing eventually I use totens + Vaal double strike, but at most of time even that is not necessary as I just don't die when cycloning. For me is better in every way, and even faster coz I lost a lot of time dying and stopping to attack with reave.
But for that is important to have Unwavering stance (stun imune) and drop the timeless jewel!!!

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Lesnoj escreveu:

Guys one question, do you also die some times on one boss hit in 14-16 maps ?
I have 12k armor and 5,6k hp and some bosses just kill me on one hit :(

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Dedellx escreveu:

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ThalantyrDSL escreveu:

I just tried this. Purchased a Cyclone 20/20 and Infused 20/20.
Slotted them into my body slot and removed Multistrike.

NOTHING ELSE CHANGED.

I think it feels extremely sluggish. The movement speed is dismal. You're spending time reacting to attacks rather than being proactive like you are with Reave (hit, hit, leap, hit, hit, leap, etc), and that makes you a target for large hits. I don't think this build has the defense layers to survive in Cyclone. I do however need to spend more time trying to change my playstyle to suit Cyclone over Reave.

I'd say at minimum you'd need to remove a flask to get a Quicksilver in and maybe swap out leap for something else because Cyclone feels like it's winding up too slow compared to how quick Reave is.

I'm just amateur but definitely feels awful to me :(

LOL
Maybe is slower to map, but the thing with cyclone is: I just press one button and nothing else matter, when I'm just attacking while moving! With reave I had to press a lot of buttons, stop a lot of times to attack, and die for nothing. And I play on controller, so was really annoying press a lot of button combination to use secondary skills or even flasks. With cyclone I just press my attack button and go until the boss. And for bossing eventually I use totens + Vaal double strike, but at most of time even that is not necessary as I just don't die when cycloning. For me is better in every way, and even faster coz I lost a lot of time dying and stopping to attack with reave.
But for that is important to have Unwavering stance (stun imune) and drop the timeless jewel!!!

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Lesnoj escreveu:

Guys one question, do you also die some times on one boss hit in 14-16 maps ?
I have 12k armor and 5,6k hp and some bosses just kill me on one hit :(

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ThalantyrDSL escreveu:

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Lesnoj escreveu:

Guys one question, do you also die some times on one boss hit in 14-16 maps ?
I have 12k armor and 5,6k hp and some bosses just kill me on one hit :(

Depends on the boss. I nearly died in one shot earlier to a yellow mob in a T16 map. My physical mitigation is 78%, 75% block, 38% spell block and 4.7K life. I still die in one shot but I know my life needs to be higher.

The main thing is that you CANNOT stand still. You have to be moving at all times or you're mostly dead. The leech, from what I understand, only gives 24% per second so two quick hits within 4 seconds and you're most likely dead.

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Nightwishlol escreveu:

You can not look at the ingame phys mitigation tool tip, it shows nothing. Armor works very different compared to resistance, the bigger the hit the less % mitigation you will have. The ingame tool tip shows your mitigation vs a white mob at your level ( a mob without any modifiers ) or at level 84 if you're above. If you want a more accurate % mitigation you will have to edit the hit dmg in the config of PoB. You can use the 12k phys dmg taken when entering the shadow realm on a scourge map as reference. If you have for example 75% phys mitigation ingame from mostly armor you actually only have around 29% mitigation vs that big of a hit. So you will take around 8.5k phys dmg. The reason I say "from mostly armor" is because flat phys % reduction like endurance charges or phys reduction from an item/patheon actually does what it say, 4% is 4% regardless of the hit, its only the phys reduction from armor which differs depending on the size of the hit.

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ThalantyrDSL escreveu:

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Nightwishlol escreveu:

You can not look at the ingame phys mitigation tool tip, it shows nothing. Armor works very different compared to resistance, the bigger the hit the less % mitigation you will have. The ingame tool tip shows your mitigation vs a white mob at your level ( a mob without any modifiers ) or at level 84 if you're above. If you want a more accurate % mitigation you will have to edit the hit dmg in the config of PoB. You can use the 12k phys dmg taken when entering the shadow realm on a scourge map as reference. If you have for example 75% phys mitigation ingame from mostly armor you actually only have around 29% mitigation vs that big of a hit. So you will take around 8.5k phys dmg. The reason I say "from mostly armor" is because flat phys % reduction like endurance charges or phys reduction from an item/patheon actually does what it say, 4% is 4% regardless of the hit, its only the phys reduction from armor which differs depending on the size of the hit.

Thanks for the explanation. I had a quick test in POB and it changes a lot.

So if I have a body or shield that has 7% additional physical reduction, you're saying that's a flat 7% because it's not armour? That's interesting. Makes me want to build up differently.

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Nightwishlol escreveu:

If you rly wanna face tank stuff I would swap Purity of elements for determination and try to get ailment immunity by other means and also remove Abyssus.