3.17 TOXIC RAIN CHAMPION - Fast, Tanky, Deadly! - League-Start to End-Game

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Macromaster escreveu:

Toxic Rain now deals 7.9 base Chaos Damage per second at gem level 1 (unchanged), up to 238 at gem level 20 (previously 285.1).

Balance Manifesto, but I expected a nerf. Not sure how big that is.

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livejamie escreveu:

Over half the people on Softcore ladder are using Vridi's Veil, is it not worth it?

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grimjack68 escreveu:

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Macromaster escreveu:

Toxic Rain now deals 7.9 base Chaos Damage per second at gem level 1 (unchanged), up to 238 at gem level 20 (previously 285.1).

Balance Manifesto, but I expected a nerf. Not sure how big that is.

16% from that. Not going to kill us, and hopefully we'll gain some projectile damage to scale some of that back on Quivers. We'll see.

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Quivers can no longer roll "Increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills" modifiers. Instead, they can now roll "Increased Damage with Bow Skills".

An example of the new highest tier modifier on quivers is: 43-50% increased damage with bow skills.

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brunowa escreveu:

238 Base Chaos Damage per second is roughly the same as a current Level 18 Toxic Rain gem.

So you can swap in a level 18 gem to get a feel for what it would be like.

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Xandharba escreveu:

I tried this build in Standard, it requires very expensive stuff to get enough dps for killing Sirus AL8 at a decent speed, I was hyped to start with this build next league but this toxic rain nerf and bread crumbs drops from maps just give me the feeling to skip it :( Other builds have too low dps or defences or requires mirrors to be efficient. What is the way to save this build dps ?

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grimjack68 escreveu:

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brunowa escreveu:

238 Base Chaos Damage per second is roughly the same as a current Level 18 Toxic Rain gem.

So you can swap in a level 18 gem to get a feel for what it would be like.

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Xandharba escreveu:

I tried this build in Standard, it requires very expensive stuff to get enough dps for killing Sirus AL8 at a decent speed, I was hyped to start with this build next league but this toxic rain nerf and bread crumbs drops from maps just give me the feeling to skip it :( Other builds have too low dps or defences or requires mirrors to be efficient. What is the way to save this build dps ?

If this is the only nerf we face, it's actually a buff overall. I put together a quick spreadsheet, this is equal to losing 1.66 gem levels. However, when you pair it up with a new quiver, we actually end up with 2% MORE damage.

So:
TR nerf: -13% dps

New quiver with:
50% increased damage affix: +5% dps
New Broadhead quiver, 10% attack speed implicit: +10% dps

5 + 10 - 13 = 2% increased overall. So... win?