[3.27] ❄️ Icicle Mines Deadeye ❄️ Cheap / League Starter / Fast Mapper / 1st Day T16

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

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Bolblej#6072 escreveu:

Aul seems insanely strong, its essentialy ailment and crit immunity

We give up an ascendancy and I'd prefer OG Oath of Maji, though of the list that is the spiciest by far.

It's also uh... Aul. Which sucks.

I'd probably elemental ailment immunity as well and action speed.

The crit immunity sounds incredible for pushing into T17’s. Can I ask why you say the ailment immunity and action speed? (action speed also seems so nice too)

Is this really not giving up an ascendancy slot for a huge chunk of easy defence?

Also, what do you mean by OG Oath of Maji?

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RodneyCopperbottom#2998 escreveu:

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

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Bolblej#6072 escreveu:

Aul seems insanely strong, its essentialy ailment and crit immunity

We give up an ascendancy and I'd prefer OG Oath of Maji (snip)

I'd probably elemental ailment immunity as well and action speed.

The crit immunity sounds incredible for pushing into T17’s. Can I ask why you say the ailment immunity and action speed? (action speed also seems so nice too)

Is this really not giving up an ascendancy slot for a huge chunk of easy defence?

Also, what do you mean by OG Oath of Maji?

OG Oath of the Maji was from Affliction. I was just commenting on the last time we had incentives to have empty sockets I feel we got more rewarded for it. Ailment immunity also gets rid of delirium ailments which I personally would prioritize. It takes a bit to get ailment immune on a build like this w/o losing power as we dont get full suppress capped. We could technically go for a stormshroud with shock avoid but that would be longer term.

I'd personally go for the action speed can't be lowered just because if the petrification statues and multiple hinder/maim stacks that I don't like. Stopping crits is great, I'd just rather have the other.

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99prosorc#1700 escreveu:

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

Alternate peveling PoB

https://pobb.in/S7NLExUl-HO1

This is not a noob friendly variant. I tend to push Pconc a little further into act 7 or 8 before swapping.

I will make a few changes to my leveling build too.

Update: https://pobb.in/6XX5pCwJN7dp

This... This just looks odd. You dropped the life flask generation to go right sooner. Do you just skip that entirely and rely on leech?

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

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99prosorc#1700 escreveu:

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

Alternate peveling PoB

https://pobb.in/S7NLExUl-HO1

This is not a noob friendly variant. I tend to push Pconc a little further into act 7 or 8 before swapping.

I will make a few changes to my leveling build too.

Update: https://pobb.in/6XX5pCwJN7dp

This... This just looks odd. You dropped the life flask generation to go right sooner. Do you just skip that entirely and rely on leech?

Took it for a spin, swapped at Lily act 6. Very solid. Never would have thought of going over there for leech nodes that early nor would I have tried not even bothering with flask sustain. I appreciate how little socket starved it is.

As far as dps goes, it's ~15% less than mine was by act 5 end, and it didn't seem to matter. Considering I killed Kitava on a 3l in 2 hr 45 minutes with your variant though I think post nerf on league Launch it'll be solid af/as strong as normal if I actually find a stinking 4l/force it earlier.

Going for shield charge frost blink tech feels fine, and just gets better as you level and get haste and tailwind. Felt pretty smooth and I only had 10% boots (bad luck quicksilvers) until halfway through act 4.

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

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99prosorc#1700 escreveu:

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

Alternate peveling PoB

https://pobb.in/S7NLExUl-HO1

This is not a noob friendly variant. I tend to push Pconc a little further into act 7 or 8 before swapping.

I will make a few changes to my leveling build too.

Update: https://pobb.in/6XX5pCwJN7dp

This... This just looks odd. You dropped the life flask generation to go right sooner. Do you just skip that entirely and rely on leech?

I did several campaign runs like this. The poison mastery adds a lot of dps. I want to rush to it as fast as possible.

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

OG Oath of the Maji was from Affliction. I was just commenting on the last time we had incentives to have empty sockets I feel we got more rewarded for it. Ailment immunity also gets rid of delirium ailments which I personally would prioritize. It takes a bit to get ailment immune on a build like this w/o losing power as we dont get full suppress capped. We could technically go for a stormshroud with shock avoid but that would be longer term.

I'd personally go for the action speed can't be lowered just because if the petrification statues and multiple hinder/maim stacks that I don't like. Stopping crits is great, I'd just rather have the other.

We really thinking we can be clearing 130+ Delve and killing Aul before buying a Stormshroud?

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RodneyCopperbottom#2998 escreveu:

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

OG Oath of the Maji was from Affliction. I was just commenting on the last time we had incentives to have empty sockets I feel we got more rewarded for it. Ailment immunity also gets rid of delirium ailments which I personally would prioritize. It takes a bit to get ailment immune on a build like this w/o losing power as we dont get full suppress capped. We could technically go for a stormshroud with shock avoid but that would be longer term.

I'd personally go for the action speed can't be lowered just because if the petrification statues and multiple hinder/maim stacks that I don't like. Stopping crits is great, I'd just rather have the other.

We really thinking we can be clearing 130+ Delve and killing Aul before buying a Stormshroud?

We could always buy a carry. Besides that I personally don't like Stormshroud. Jewel slot and 2 (or 3 on a lower budget) affixes on jewels are a lot.

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RodneyCopperbottom#2998 escreveu:

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

OG Oath of the Maji was from Affliction. I was just commenting on the last time we had incentives to have empty sockets I feel we got more rewarded for it. Ailment immunity also gets rid of delirium ailments which I personally would prioritize. It takes a bit to get ailment immune on a build like this w/o losing power as we dont get full suppress capped. We could technically go for a stormshroud with shock avoid but that would be longer term.

I'd personally go for the action speed can't be lowered just because if the petrification statues and multiple hinder/maim stacks that I don't like. Stopping crits is great, I'd just rather have the other.

We really thinking we can be clearing 130+ Delve and killing Aul before buying a Stormshroud?

Not at all. ;)

In the earlier post I said, "But it's Aul, and Aul sucks."
I wouldn't personally go Stormshroud just because of Shroud of the Lightless.

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

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GERWARIC#7694 escreveu:

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

I've been tinkering with a faster leveling setup...

I'm interested. Do you go for something like cobra lash?

No, I could probably go for that though. Atm I stick with poisonous concoction but choose different/better points...

Thank you for this. I can't decide between icicle mine and taking pconc to red maps, but it's my first time starting pconc so the leveling advice is terrific either way.

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GERWARIC#7694 escreveu:

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Xenithos#3163 escreveu:

No, I could probably go for that though. Atm I stick with poisonous concoction but choose different/better points...

Thank you for this. I can't decide between icicle mine and taking pconc to red maps, but it's my first time starting pconc so the leveling advice is terrific either way.

I'm obviously biased here but Icicle mines in mapping is superb feeling. But this build also abuses portals like it owes them money early so...

After playing prosorc's updated leveling PoB as well I'd recommend that one instead. It's more socket friendly.